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re: 1995 Nebraska dominant stats

Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:26 pm to
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:26 pm to
But the elite players from the mid-1990s could absolutely compete today. There’s not been that big a difference in size and speed of football players.

If you want to talk about 1985 players then sure. But 1995? Those guys, esp at Nebraska, had plenty weightlifting and elite speed.
Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:33 pm to
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But the elite players from the mid-1990s could absolutely compete today.
With today’s weight training gear and exercise physiology research, absolutely.

Not to mention the legal bulking and strength training boosters.

That team, from that time period, versus many different teams from our modern era, they would lose.

We still haven’t peaked as a species.

20 years from now, we will likely have advanced again and people will continue to have this argument and it will, again, come down to the fact that the future athletes will be outpacing the contemporary ones.

That is how it will always work.
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If you want to talk about 1985 players then sure. But 1995? Those guys, esp at Nebraska, had plenty weightlifting and elite speed.
Then why are mainly modern players at the top of the combine’s record lists?

I mean, they are all pretty much from 2010 on, actually.
This post was edited on 1/16/20 at 9:35 pm
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 1/16/20 at 10:01 pm to
And most of those combine records were set by players who were mediocre at best players. Players now specifically train for the combine on a level they weren’t 25 years ago, hell not even 15 years ago.

You’re splitting hairs on margins.

You’re also not taking into account other variables: in game rule changes, off the field requirements, game tech, and so on.

But the point still remains, LSU had a great season. They did not have the best nor most dominant season of all time. If Tua was healthy, LSU is in the Sugar Bowl playing Baylor.

Hell LSU’s margin between PPG and PPGA wasn’t even the best in their own conference this year.
This post was edited on 1/16/20 at 10:07 pm
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
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Posted on 1/16/20 at 10:08 pm to
South Carolina lost to UNC, Missery, Tennessee, and App State.

The opinions of any fan of that team in regards to anything athletics related are irrelevant and discarded immediately.

At least beat App State and Missery before you comment about any other football team and their successes.
This post was edited on 1/16/20 at 10:09 pm
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
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Posted on 1/16/20 at 10:09 pm to
Didn’t you lose to Troy before?
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
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Posted on 1/16/20 at 10:10 pm to
We made up for our shittiness.

Maybe y’all will too one day, but I highly doubt it.
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
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Posted on 1/16/20 at 10:11 pm to
Very low IQ posts from you Scruffy. Hitting that sauce hard or that hangover hanging on?
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
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Posted on 1/16/20 at 10:16 pm to
Nah, my posts have nothing to do with LSU, yet you decided to bring them up, although I feel that multiple modern teams (LSU, Bama, Clemson, OSU, Penn State, among others) would beat Nebraska, just like Nebraska and multiple 90s teams would beat any team from 1975.

I’ll make the same argument in 2040, that many teams from that era would beat this current LSU team and Nebraska and any team from before.

It is how progression works.

You started with a troll and didn’t deserve a proper response.
This post was edited on 1/16/20 at 10:18 pm
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 1/16/20 at 10:22 pm to
Oh I forgot, Louisiana treats any FACT that doesn’t agree with their biased OPINION as a troll.

As you were corndog.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 1/16/20 at 10:40 pm to
1995 is just not long enough ago to see this gulf in athletic performance. We’re only talking 6 years prior to that 2001 Miami team which people still talk about as the greatest collection of talent assembled in college. You still had players from that Miami team in the NFL not that long ago. Some players actually spend 6 years in college (Kirsten Pitman at LSU for example). So you’re talking one class prior to the 2001 era which we know could still compete.

The improvement of athletic performances since then would be seen on the average but the elite talents from 1995 would do fine today. Ray Lewis and Warren Sapp lost to Nebraska.
Posted by zatetic
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 1/17/20 at 9:56 am to
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1995 is just not long enough ago to see this gulf in athletic performance.


Yeah. I think it is more rule based changes. Like if players had to play both ways like back in the day and not have all the tv timeouts, reviews, etc. and substitutions of today players, at least lineman, just wouldn't be as big. As time goes on the league adjusts to allow for more specialization of players allowing the margins of "performance" to be wider.
Posted by Cfrobel
Member since Nov 2019
331 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 10:05 am to
Lewis and Sapp got worked in that Orange Bowl. Miami's entire D was standing around with hands on their hips in the 4th quarter. Schlesinger rumbling into the endzone on the fullback trap was an absolute thing of beauty, I can watch that play over and over.
Posted by LSU Otter
Member since Jan 2020
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Posted on 1/17/20 at 5:35 pm to
He did it twice - exact same play on back-to-back drives! The fullbacks they had back in those days — Schlesinger, and the Makovickas, were horses.
Posted by rsbd
banks of the Mississippi
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 1/17/20 at 5:51 pm to
Roids
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 1/17/20 at 7:31 pm to
I remember that too. I still like Nebraska and wish they’d become relevant again. I’m just saying 1995 Nebraska may or may not be able to beat 2019 LSU, but it would certainly compete and wouldn’t lose due to any athletic deficiencies.
Posted by Cfrobel
Member since Nov 2019
331 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 9:31 pm to
I think it all comes down to the rules, 2019 LSU is the best I've seen since the rules changed dramatically to favor the pass. Nebraska in 95 was the perfection of power football.
Posted by Wild Thang
YAW YAW Fooball Nation
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 1/17/20 at 10:24 pm to
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If Tua was healthy, LSU is in the Sugar Bowl playing Baylor.



Posted by NFLU
New Orleans, LA
Member since Aug 2014
5845 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 11:25 pm to
‘19 LSU would destroy the Nebraska Steroids.
Posted by MidnightVibe
Member since Feb 2015
7896 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 11:36 pm to
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They didn’t give up a sack all season. A single one. That’s mind blowing


Not when you run the focking option
Posted by MidnightVibe
Member since Feb 2015
7896 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 11:38 pm to
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When you look at 2001 Miami, they were loaded with talent yet 1995 Nebraska has far


But they also weren't nearly as good at college football.
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