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re: 10 best college qb's who sucked in the nfl

Posted on 5/21/14 at 1:18 pm to
Posted by JEAUXBLEAUX
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Posted on 5/21/14 at 1:18 pm to
Brady Quinn
Ron Powlus
Posted by Sophandros
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Posted on 5/21/14 at 1:19 pm to
Yeah, Frazier belongs no where near that list. Same with Moore.

But it's clear that the person who wrote the list is very young.
Posted by Sophandros
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Posted on 5/21/14 at 1:23 pm to
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Hes a media circus man. Hes gonna be #1 on any "College QBs who sucked in the NFL list" for that reason.



No, he's high on the list because he's a fricking terrible NFL QB.
Posted by Zamoro10
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 5/21/14 at 1:36 pm to
You could argue who is #1 in college based on accomplishment, awards and media love...

Tebow or Leinart or Young (though Young never won the Heisman.)

Between Tebow or Leinart (not many people took Tebow seriously at the next level.)

So based on college accomplishment, stats, award and perceived ability - Leinart has to be #1.

He produced almost nothing at the next level compared to his college career and where he was drafted...hell, he might have been #1 if he doesn't stay for another year. Unlike Crouch, Frazier or Tebow and Young...scouts saw Leinart as a real deal star QB at the next level.

As much as I hate to admit...Leinart is the poster child for awesome college career with pro potential who didn't do squat at the next level.
Posted by Sevendust912
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Posted on 5/21/14 at 1:39 pm to
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No Pat White in here?


Didn't suck. Got hurt
Posted by runningTiger
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 5/21/14 at 1:43 pm to
Tebow started and won the majority of his games. Got his team almost as far as they got with Peyton Manning.

Tebow sucks, but he's far from deserving to be on the list. He led his team to the playoffs and won a playoff game after passing for 300 plus yards. Most of these other scrubs may have started some games, but never led their teams to the playoffs.
Posted by Sophandros
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Posted on 5/21/14 at 1:48 pm to
Sanchez started and won the majority of his games. He beat Manning and Brady on the road in consecutive weeks in the playoffs.

Shaun King started and won the majority of his games. He led his team to the NFCCG.

Both are better pro QBs than Tebow because both can complete forward passes.
Posted by Sophandros
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Posted on 5/21/14 at 1:49 pm to
And to say that Tebow led them to the playoffs is a false statement.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
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Posted on 5/21/14 at 2:20 pm to
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1. tebow 25th overall
2. ty detmer 7th round
3. wuerffel 4th round
4. eric crouch 3rd round (rams are idiots)
5. vince young 3rd overall
6. jason white undrafted
7. gino torretta 7th round
8. leinart 10th overall
9. tommie frazier undrafted
10. kellen moore undrafted


Posted by Wayne Campbell
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 5/21/14 at 3:54 pm to
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Posted by Sophandros And to say that Tebow led them to the playoffs is a false statement.


If nothing else, a very liberal use of the word "led."

Also, the thread title is misleading from the intent of the article. The list is top 10 college QBs who never made it big in the NFL.

That at least makes sense then to include guys who never got a real shot like Moore, White, and Crouch.
This post was edited on 5/21/14 at 3:56 pm
Posted by Haydidit
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Posted on 5/21/14 at 3:55 pm to
slideshows are so annoying
Posted by iliveinabox
in a box
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 5/21/14 at 4:05 pm to
.. Vince young made the pro bowl twice didn't he.?.. Way more than anyone else accomplished on this list..
Posted by LSUHoleInOne
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 5/21/14 at 4:28 pm to
I guess Tebow didn't make the throw to beat the steelers either.

1-4 to 7-4. No way a quarterback who came into the starting role after 1-4 and leading then to 8-8 should be classified as leading his team. No way.
This post was edited on 5/21/14 at 4:31 pm
Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 5/21/14 at 4:55 pm to
Andre Ware?

David Klingler?

Dan McGwire?
Posted by LL012697
Texas
Member since May 2013
4045 posts
Posted on 5/21/14 at 5:09 pm to
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I guess Tebow didn't make the throw to beat the steelers either.

1-4 to 7-4. No way a quarterback who came into the starting role after 1-4 and leading then to 8-8 should be classified as leading his team. No way.


I mean Denver's offense went from 21 ppg pre Tebow to 18 ppg after he took over, and the defense went from 28 ppg pre Tebow to 22.7 ppg after he took over....the team played better after he became starter no doubt, but it isn't like he was carrying the load
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 5/21/14 at 5:42 pm to
So Tebow made the defense improve?

Did he also, through the force of his will, cause opposing kickers to miss relatively easy kicks and will his kicker to make 50+ yarders?
Posted by LSUHoleInOne
Member since Mar 2014
872 posts
Posted on 5/21/14 at 5:44 pm to
Yes he made his teammates better. Dudes a flat out leader. What's past tense that a leader does? Led.
Posted by ZereauxSum
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Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 5/21/14 at 6:06 pm to
No Ryan Leaf or J-Rock and they have Vince Young #5?

Also, was Kellen Moore really even that good at Boise? Not sure why he'd mra this list.

Suspect list is suspect.

Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 5/21/14 at 6:30 pm to
Just because jamarcus was by far the best qb lsu has seen this century doesn't mean his college career was anything near that of those guys on the list.
Posted by ZereauxSum
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Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 5/21/14 at 6:44 pm to
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Just because jamarcus was by far the best qb lsu has seen this century doesn't mean his college career was anything near that of those guys on the list.


Is this list about the best QBs or the QBs with the best careers?

Was Kellen Moore really a better QB than Jamarcus or Ryan Leaf?
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