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re: You win the Powerball. Describe your first 10 steps.
Posted on 11/28/12 at 1:33 pm to Lookin4Par
Posted on 11/28/12 at 1:33 pm to Lookin4Par
Easy.
I wake up. Realize it was a dream. Go to Starbucks and have an Espresso.
People who play the lottery lack basic math skills.
I wake up. Realize it was a dream. Go to Starbucks and have an Espresso.
People who play the lottery lack basic math skills.
Posted on 11/28/12 at 1:47 pm to Zach
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People who go to starbucks lack basic math skills.
Posted on 11/28/12 at 1:57 pm to ATL TGR
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People who go to starbucks lack basic math skills.
Lemme splain it to ya.
I don't know expensive wine from cheap wine. So, it would be stupid for me to buy expensive wine.
I don't know expensive beer from cheap beer. So, it would be stupid for me to buy expensive beer.
I can tell espresso from any coffee shop you want to name. Starbuck's espresso is the best.
But, when I pay 3 bucks at Starbucks I get something. When you buy a lottery ticket you get nothing. That's the math.
As far as the Powerball. Don't go outside. Because your chances of getting struck by lightening are much higher than your chances of winning the Powerball.
It's a saying as old as dirt in the financial world: "The lottery is a tax on the stupid."
Posted on 11/28/12 at 2:00 pm to Zach
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When you buy a lottery ticket you get nothing. That's the math.
Not true. It's given me something to daydream about to pass the time during my 30-40 minute commute to work each way this week. Worth 2 bucks, in my opinion.
Posted on 11/28/12 at 2:11 pm to Zach
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It's a saying as old as dirt in the financial world: "The lottery is a tax on the stupid."
The financial world doesn't have bigger problems than to brow beat the proletariat for spending $2 to daydream of winning half a billion dollars?
Posted on 11/28/12 at 3:00 pm to GaryMyMan
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The financial world doesn't have bigger problems than to brow beat the proletariat for spending $2 to daydream of winning half a billion dollars?
This.
I bought exactly one ticket, just so i could spend the next 30 minutes in traffic thinking about what all i would do.
Plus the odds are better with one ticket than none.
Posted on 11/28/12 at 3:21 pm to bryso
I hate threads like this because I know tomorrow I will be sad because I didn't win.
Posted on 11/28/12 at 3:25 pm to CP3LSU25
And I'll wait for the next "what would you do" thread to pop up in a few months to waste another $2.
Posted on 11/28/12 at 5:31 pm to BACONisMEATcandy
Thanks for the vote of confidence, but waiting until after you have won is too late to effectively shelter as much of the winnings as possible from taxes. The Poodlebrain Plan for winning the Powerball would be something like this:
1. Create the You Don't Know Who The F**k I Am Trust, appointing myself as trustee and beneficiary. Fund the trust with $85.
2. Create separate trusts to benefit each of the family members I plan on sharing the wealth with.
3. As trustee of the YDKWTFIAT, form the Sweet arse Powerball Winning LLC. The members of the LLC are the trusts I created for members of my family that I want to share the wealth with. In my case it would be 50% retained by the YDKWTFIAT, 10% each to my four siblings and 10% to split among my nieces and nephews. The YDKWTFIAT will be named the manager of the SAPWLLC, and the only identified party in filings with the Secretary of State. The cost to form the LLC is $75.
3. Have an operating agreement drafted for the SAPWLLC that gives the manager sole responsibility for managing SAPPWLLC, and the manager can only be replaced with a vote of greater than 50% of the ownership interests, so I have to vote myself out of power.
5. Contribute $10 of remaining assets of YDKWTFIAT to SAPWLLC.
6. Invest $1 of SAPWLLC assets in winning Powerball ticket.
7. Visit various banks and financial institutions to find one to act as co-trustee of the YDKWTFIAT and other trusts, and to establish bank accounts for SAPWLLC. (From this point forward the financial institution will be the public face of the YDKWTFIAT and SAPWLLC as I go incognito.)
8. Have the corporate fiduciary go collect the Powerball winnings as a lump sum less the 35% federal income tax.
9. Direct the co-trustee to distribute an appropriate amount of cash to each of the members so they can party like rock stars. I don't want them going overboard like OT-ballers.
10. Turn investment management over to asset managers and judge them based on portfolio performance while living happily ever after.
The above plan will avoid all transfer taxes on 50% of the Powerball prize, but it could be modified to give away more, or less, of the prize as one might desire. If we assume the lump sum will be $400 million, the tax savings for me would be approximately $85 million. The SAPWLLC will have to file an annual partnership tax return and the various members will be taxed on their allocable shares of the income. Thus the SAPWLLC will have to make regular distributions to the members so they can pay their taxes. But with the creative use of the LLC and trusts I would be able to control who gets how much and when.
I almost forgot.
11. Buy CarrolltonTiger a one way ticket to Israel.
1. Create the You Don't Know Who The F**k I Am Trust, appointing myself as trustee and beneficiary. Fund the trust with $85.
2. Create separate trusts to benefit each of the family members I plan on sharing the wealth with.
3. As trustee of the YDKWTFIAT, form the Sweet arse Powerball Winning LLC. The members of the LLC are the trusts I created for members of my family that I want to share the wealth with. In my case it would be 50% retained by the YDKWTFIAT, 10% each to my four siblings and 10% to split among my nieces and nephews. The YDKWTFIAT will be named the manager of the SAPWLLC, and the only identified party in filings with the Secretary of State. The cost to form the LLC is $75.
3. Have an operating agreement drafted for the SAPWLLC that gives the manager sole responsibility for managing SAPPWLLC, and the manager can only be replaced with a vote of greater than 50% of the ownership interests, so I have to vote myself out of power.
5. Contribute $10 of remaining assets of YDKWTFIAT to SAPWLLC.
6. Invest $1 of SAPWLLC assets in winning Powerball ticket.
7. Visit various banks and financial institutions to find one to act as co-trustee of the YDKWTFIAT and other trusts, and to establish bank accounts for SAPWLLC. (From this point forward the financial institution will be the public face of the YDKWTFIAT and SAPWLLC as I go incognito.)
8. Have the corporate fiduciary go collect the Powerball winnings as a lump sum less the 35% federal income tax.
9. Direct the co-trustee to distribute an appropriate amount of cash to each of the members so they can party like rock stars. I don't want them going overboard like OT-ballers.
10. Turn investment management over to asset managers and judge them based on portfolio performance while living happily ever after.
The above plan will avoid all transfer taxes on 50% of the Powerball prize, but it could be modified to give away more, or less, of the prize as one might desire. If we assume the lump sum will be $400 million, the tax savings for me would be approximately $85 million. The SAPWLLC will have to file an annual partnership tax return and the various members will be taxed on their allocable shares of the income. Thus the SAPWLLC will have to make regular distributions to the members so they can pay their taxes. But with the creative use of the LLC and trusts I would be able to control who gets how much and when.
I almost forgot.
11. Buy CarrolltonTiger a one way ticket to Israel.
Posted on 11/28/12 at 6:04 pm to Lookin4Par
1. Hire a lawyer
2. Contact my commodities dealer and set up a LARGE transaction
3. Claim prize
4. Purchase home with underground component
5. Purchase hardcore bank safe
6. Install hardcore safe
7. Obtain Title 3 firearm license
8. Purchases automatic 6.8mm Assault Rifle and more rounds than god
9. Take delivery of $10,500,000 in gold and $9,500,000 in silver.
10. 2 chicks at the same time.
I think I covered everything but with the type of money coming to the winner, I'd think I could buy steps 11-20.
Note: Since Helping family and friends are a given, they have been excluded from the list.
2. Contact my commodities dealer and set up a LARGE transaction
3. Claim prize
4. Purchase home with underground component
5. Purchase hardcore bank safe
6. Install hardcore safe
7. Obtain Title 3 firearm license
8. Purchases automatic 6.8mm Assault Rifle and more rounds than god
9. Take delivery of $10,500,000 in gold and $9,500,000 in silver.
10. 2 chicks at the same time.
I think I covered everything but with the type of money coming to the winner, I'd think I could buy steps 11-20.
Note: Since Helping family and friends are a given, they have been excluded from the list.
Posted on 11/28/12 at 7:37 pm to Poodlebrain
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but waiting until after you have won is too late to effectively shelter as much of the winnings as possible from taxes.
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10% each to my four siblings and 10% to split among my nieces and nephews.
no way i give 50% of it away.
Posted on 11/28/12 at 7:52 pm to LSUAfro
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That might be one of the worst top 10s I have ever seen.
Posted on 11/28/12 at 7:53 pm to bryso
Assume the lump sum is $400 million. The income tax they take right away is $140 million. So you walk away with $260 million. Giving away $130 million now to avoid paying $85 million in taxes later doesn't exactly leave me destitute.
If I take $30 million to blow like an OT-baller I still have $100 million to invest. Earning a lousy 2% gives me $2 million per year to live on. When I die I will have already taken care of my relatives. So I won't hesitate to leave it all to LSU on condition they name a toilet stall after me in one of the Tiger Stadium, Student Section, Women's Restrooms. That way I'll spend eternity touching the naked asses of LSU co-eds in some sort of spiritual sense.
If I take $30 million to blow like an OT-baller I still have $100 million to invest. Earning a lousy 2% gives me $2 million per year to live on. When I die I will have already taken care of my relatives. So I won't hesitate to leave it all to LSU on condition they name a toilet stall after me in one of the Tiger Stadium, Student Section, Women's Restrooms. That way I'll spend eternity touching the naked asses of LSU co-eds in some sort of spiritual sense.
Posted on 11/28/12 at 9:57 pm to Poodlebrain
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11. Buy CarrolltonTiger a one way ticket to Israel
ETA: I feel like I should send you a check for all that.... (vigorously taking notes)
This post was edited on 11/28/12 at 9:59 pm
Posted on 11/29/12 at 8:40 am to Meauxjeaux
frick Powerball. I got 3 numbers in a row and then nothing. I was counting on that shite. I had already contacted some dealerships about vehicles.
Posted on 11/29/12 at 9:17 am to Broke
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I got 3 numbers in a row and then nothing.
damn you were so close yet still had 1/75 milllion to go
Posted on 11/29/12 at 12:13 pm to Lookin4Par
1. Hire a trustworthy lawyer, CPA, and financial advisor to discuss my investments and financial future.
2. Try to keep my identity as confidential/anonymous as possible.
3. Buy a new car
4. Pay off my immediate family's debt
5. Donate to charities through using my own money to buy assets/equipment/food/etc. for them so that there is no fraudulent activity going on with my money.
6. I would still stay in school and get a graduate degree like my original plan.
7. Go on plenty of vacations, buy 2 vacations homes, but not live too large so that relatives don't shake me down for money or suspect that I have millions upon millions.
8. Donate money to LSU and have a building named after me
9. Buy a suite for LSU games
10. Create my own business
2. Try to keep my identity as confidential/anonymous as possible.
3. Buy a new car
4. Pay off my immediate family's debt
5. Donate to charities through using my own money to buy assets/equipment/food/etc. for them so that there is no fraudulent activity going on with my money.
6. I would still stay in school and get a graduate degree like my original plan.
7. Go on plenty of vacations, buy 2 vacations homes, but not live too large so that relatives don't shake me down for money or suspect that I have millions upon millions.
8. Donate money to LSU and have a building named after me
9. Buy a suite for LSU games
10. Create my own business
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