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re: Wife getting 1/2 401K via divorce

Posted on 1/18/23 at 3:25 pm to
Posted by REB BEER
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 1/18/23 at 3:25 pm to
It sucks giving up 1/2. But after the smoke clears you may meet another woman with her own assets, and you won't be living off your 401K alone.

Just a thought.
Posted by Foreskinski
Member since Dec 2005
1107 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 3:34 pm to
Watch a lot of Dateline and learn from the mistakes of others.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26045 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 3:49 pm to
quote:

you may meet another woman with her own assets, and you won't be living off your 401K alone.

Just a thought.

Find a woman who left a man with a bigger nest egg than you had accumulated and call it progress.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 3:54 pm to
Well you are going to have fewer expenses with no wife to pay upkeep on. Just don't take on another if your money is a priority. I have a friend that was in your same predicament and he was amazed how much less he spent every month after the split.
Posted by DUGAST
La.
Member since Sep 2014
111 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 4:03 pm to
quote:

It sucks giving up 1/2. But after the smoke clears you may meet another woman with her own assets, and you won't be living off your 401K alone.


This is the goal
Posted by HighlyFavoredTiger
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Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 1/18/23 at 5:20 pm to
As you and others have said, unfortunately fault does not matter. My brother tried to argue that and his attorney told him the court considers it your responsibility to be aware of what your spouse is doing.

If you do get into another relationship that leads to marriage, I’d strongly suggest that you and your future mate get a prenuptial agreement, that will keep you from losing more and if she’s loaded it would encourage the possibility of her marrying you due to less risk of loss for her. You both could live great despite this loss, you’d have to agree on who how bills would be handled but if you ever parted ways you wouldn’t lose as much as this time.
I’ve been divorced and would not consider remarrying without a prenup as legal protection.
Sorry to hear this happened to you but there is life after a situation like this and hopefully you can make the most of it.
Posted by PetroBabich
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Member since Apr 2017
5068 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 7:36 pm to
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I’d strongly suggest that you and your future mate get a prenuptial agreement


In practice do prenups actually hold up in court? I've heard anecdotes that they often get thrown out or disregarded once divorce starts.
Posted by HighlyFavoredTiger
TexLaArk
Member since Jun 2018
934 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 9:22 pm to
I’ve never discussed with anyone that had to test the effectiveness of a prenuptial and I hope I don’t eventually have to find out but I’ve got one just in case.
But I know for an absolute fact what happens if you don’t have one, even if I have only a 50/50 chance with one, I’ve already experienced the certainty of losing 50% without one.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/19/23 at 8:14 am to
It would not shock me to learn other states have that.

Louisiana's divorce/property law needs a lot of updating and analysis.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/19/23 at 8:15 am to
quote:

In practice do prenups actually hold up in court?

If done correctly (which varies by state)? Yes.

quote:

I've heard anecdotes that they often get thrown out or disregarded once divorce starts.

Again, depends on the state.

California has some fricked up marriage/divorce laws, and lots of litigation around prenups, PLUS a desire for equity, so I'm sure they may have some wonky legal precedents today.
This post was edited on 1/19/23 at 8:16 am
Posted by MMauler
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Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 1/19/23 at 9:31 am to
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It would not shock me to learn other states have that. Louisiana's divorce/property law needs a lot of updating and analysis


Yeah, I remember reading it and thinking it was a good policy. If they’re not going to penalize cheaters in the property distribution area, the least they can do is make sure they don’t get any f*cking alimony, temporary or permanent.
Posted by TrapperJohn
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
12167 posts
Posted on 1/19/23 at 5:18 pm to
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That is in man dollars, that is like 4 million in married dollars.


Preach!
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
70790 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 2:33 am to
You never confirmed whether or not your wife accumulated retirement savings during your marriage.
Posted by saderade
America's City
Member since Jul 2005
26266 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 5:45 am to
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Louisiana's divorce/property law needs a lot of updating and analysis.
No doubt and the current situation is shite for a lot of the men on here as previously discussed. However I bet most of these laws were put on the books when the wife stayed at home and only the man worked. So to prevent the man from leaving a wife of 20 years without shite to her name and no earning potential, these laws were put in place. Obviously this isnt the case much anymore so the laws need some updating.
Posted by SaintsTiger
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Posted on 1/21/23 at 6:44 am to
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No doubt and the current situation is shite for a lot of the men on here as previously discussed. However I bet most of these laws were put on the books when the wife stayed at home and only the man worked. So to prevent the man from leaving a wife of 20 years without shite to her name and no earning potential, these laws were put in place. Obviously this isnt the case much anymore so the laws need some updating.


They were put on the books in Spanish colonial times.
Posted by DUGAST
La.
Member since Sep 2014
111 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 9:16 am to
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You never confirmed whether or not your wife accumulated retirement savings during your marriage.


35k

Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
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Posted on 1/22/23 at 3:57 pm to
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This post was edited on 1/22/23 at 4:34 pm
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 1/22/23 at 8:06 pm to
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35k


17.5 is yours baw
Posted by ConfusedHawgInMO
Member since Apr 2014
3578 posts
Posted on 1/23/23 at 1:55 pm to
Convince her that after penalty and income tax that her 1/2 will only be 25% of the total. Cut her a check for $200k and be done with it, home equity loan or whatever. You will still have the full 401k in the market.
Posted by minister of truth
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Member since May 2022
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Posted on 1/23/23 at 3:56 pm to
Sorry to hear what you are going through! Went through the same scenario myself in the 40s with two children as well. Wife admitted in court to cheating, but it didn’t matter. As a high income earner you soon to come realize that no one GAF. Protect yourself financially as much as possible and do right by your sons. Unfortunately, I did what you will end up having to do - putting your nose back to the grindstone and making it work as you already have. It sucks for a while, but believe me, you’ll come out better on the other side.

In my 40s ??
This post was edited on 1/23/23 at 4:07 pm
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