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Why do real estate websites assume 4% for closing costs?

Posted on 7/7/24 at 10:14 am
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 7/7/24 at 10:14 am
I bought and sold a couple houses over the years, none the last 20 years, and I can't recall closing costs being that expensive. For example, $32,000 on an $800,000 home. Where or when did that start? Again I haven't sold or bought a home in awhile, so maybe I'm completely forgetting the obvious.

Also, what happened to the For Sale by Owner trend? I don't see that any longer. Paying a realtor 5-6% remains ridiculous imo.

Do traditional realtors steer their clients away from the "1% Lists" houses?
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
25810 posts
Posted on 7/7/24 at 10:19 am to
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Do traditional realtors steer their clients away from the "1% Lists" houses?


Realistically, why wouldn’t real estate agents have the same motivations as everyone else in the transaction (make as much as possible or get as much value as possible).
Posted by fareplay
Member since Nov 2012
6282 posts
Posted on 7/7/24 at 11:01 am to
4% aggregate makes sense but majority is by seller not buyer. My closing was only 12k and seller was 50k or so.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
77890 posts
Posted on 7/7/24 at 12:06 pm to
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and seller was 50k
For what?
Posted by GeauxTigers777
Member since Oct 2007
1591 posts
Posted on 7/7/24 at 12:15 pm to
Mainly realtor fees (traditionally 6% of closing cost paid by the seller)
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
53593 posts
Posted on 7/7/24 at 12:23 pm to
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4% aggregate makes sense but majority is by seller not buyer. My closing was only 12k and seller was 50k or so.


62k in closing? What were the costs and the prices?
Posted by BabyTac
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2008
15709 posts
Posted on 7/7/24 at 12:26 pm to
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what happened to the For Sale by Owner trend?


First hand knowledge that real estate agents will ban your home from any showings and when asked, give clients bad information.
This post was edited on 7/7/24 at 12:28 pm
Posted by fareplay
Member since Nov 2012
6282 posts
Posted on 7/7/24 at 12:42 pm to
Transfer tax mainly at 44k
Posted by fareplay
Member since Nov 2012
6282 posts
Posted on 7/7/24 at 12:42 pm to
Closer to 70k. 2.2
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24993 posts
Posted on 7/7/24 at 12:43 pm to
Industry will continue to be reshaped. The recent lawsuit settlement will further than transformation. Digital evolution is going to drive these commissions into the ground.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93058 posts
Posted on 7/7/24 at 12:47 pm to
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Industry will continue to be reshaped. The recent lawsuit settlement will further than transformation. Digital evolution is going to drive these commissions into the ground.


Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24993 posts
Posted on 7/7/24 at 12:48 pm to
What’s there to laugh about? These commissions have nowhere to go but down.
This post was edited on 7/7/24 at 1:21 pm
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93058 posts
Posted on 7/7/24 at 1:01 pm to
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What’s there is laugh about? These commissions have nowhere to go but down.


Because what you said is laughable

They arent going anywhere. It will weed out the weak thats fot sure which is needed

And didnt that law going into effect get pushed out?
This post was edited on 7/7/24 at 1:04 pm
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38349 posts
Posted on 7/7/24 at 1:04 pm to
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but majority is by seller not buyer.
We're still pretending this canard is true?
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24993 posts
Posted on 7/7/24 at 1:11 pm to
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They arent going anywhere. It will weed out the weak thats fot sure which is needed


I said nothing about number of people in the profession albeit I would expect less agents in the future. I said their fees will be under pressure and will only go down from here.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38349 posts
Posted on 7/7/24 at 1:12 pm to
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They arent going anywhere
There is and will be downward pressure on fees.

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And didnt that law going into effect get pushed out?
You tell us. You seem awfully sure of yourself.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93058 posts
Posted on 7/7/24 at 1:13 pm to
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There is and will be downward pressure on fees.



Please provide any type of proof of this
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24993 posts
Posted on 7/7/24 at 1:20 pm to
LINK

LINK

LMGTFY. This information is easily accessible. Average commissions have dropped from 6% and are closer to 5.5% now and trending downward.

Online listings at 1.5% like Redfin and fixed fee listings will continue to drive the transaction fees lower.


For being quite confident, you appear to have very little knowledge of the industry.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93058 posts
Posted on 7/7/24 at 1:53 pm to
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Average commissions have dropped from 6% and are closer to 5.5% now and trending downward.


The average commission has never been 6% thats been a myth

Its been closer to 5% for a very long time now

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For being quite confident, you appear to have very little knowledge of the industry


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Online listings at 1.5% like Redfin and fixed fee listings will continue to drive the transaction fees lower.


Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38349 posts
Posted on 7/7/24 at 3:55 pm to
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Online listings at 1.5% like Redfin and fixed fee listings will continue to drive the transaction fees lower.
The thing that's going to drive it lower is the new regs forcing them into more transparent and ethical behavior re fees.

As a rule, they have been deceitful for decades.
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