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Why do I owe money in taxes this year versus last year when little has changed?

Posted on 1/22/18 at 8:23 pm
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57380 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 8:23 pm
Did I miss something?

I'm in the same bracket, with more income, but also with a second child AND the child care deduction - yet I am getting thousands less back this year.

I'm using turbotax - which I've used for years. So, what am I missing? Are we all getting screwed here?
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 8:25 pm to
Obama getting one last jab in before new tax laws
Posted by Puffoluffagus
Savannah, GA
Member since Feb 2009
6105 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 8:29 pm to
Instead of looking at the end number (tax refund vs payment), look to see if you're actual tax liability changed or if you withheld more last year vs this year.
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
46193 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 8:32 pm to
Do you still have last years return? Compare. What went up?
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57380 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 8:40 pm to
my base pay went up but that's it - still within the same bracket. It's clear as mud - might have to go to an actual CPA on this one.
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
46193 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 8:58 pm to
Going through your 1040 and comparing it to last year should be pretty simple. Something had to have changed. Also as someone said earlier you need to be looking at tax liability (line 63) not your refund/tax owed.

If your AGI is fairly similar, then my next thought would be to check your itemized.
Posted by Saint5446
Member since Jan 2014
823 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 5:22 am to
The “bracket” isn’t the only thing that raises your taxes. If you make more in the same bracket as last year you still have to pay taxes on that even if you don’t meet the next bracket cutoff.
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
21644 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 6:34 am to
quote:

Why do I owe money in taxes this year versus last year when little has changed?



Could have to do with the tax law that republicans passed without reading
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 6:39 am to
quote:

Did I miss something?


Compare every line on last year's 1040 with this year's. More than likely you just didn't have as much withheld this year as last, not as many deductions, that sort of thing.
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
46193 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 7:02 am to
quote:

Could have to do with the tax law that republicans passed without reading

Well obviously you haven’t read it either because that’s actually not a possibility. That’s 2018 tax law not 2017
This post was edited on 1/23/18 at 7:05 am
Posted by FinleyStreet
Member since Aug 2011
7903 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 7:17 am to
quote:

more income


Did you increase your deductions to account for this income increase?
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45815 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 7:43 am to
quote:

Could have to do with the tax law that republicans passed without reading


Wut?
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37126 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 2:12 pm to
quote:

my base pay went up but that's it - still within the same bracket.


Do you itemize? Did this change?

Is your additional income causing phaseouts of itemized deductions, exemptions, and credits?

Did your withholding increase enough to "keep pace" with the increased earnings?

Is your income earned pretty evenly through the year, or does it go up and down?
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37126 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 2:12 pm to
quote:

Could have to do with the tax law that republicans passed without reading


Take that crap to the Political Board
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
18291 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 2:51 pm to
quote:

might have to go to an actual CPA on this one.


Started doing this 2 years ago and it's worth it if you make over 150K per year IMO. My CPA has more than saved me what he costs.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41208 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 3:33 pm to
quote:

my base pay went up but that's it


yes, that would probably be it
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 3:38 pm to
quote:

my base pay went up but that's it


quote:

yes, that would probably be it



Yes every extra dollar is at the 25% rate, but the withholding should have been adjusted. The answer could be that simple, but I'd still take a look at the returns just to confirm.
Posted by FulshearTiger
Member since Jul 2015
5276 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 3:51 pm to
quote:

ould have to do with the tax law that republicans passed without reading

Doubtful since the laws have zero implication until 2018, you dumb frick.
Posted by iknowmorethanyou
Paydirt
Member since Jul 2007
6548 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 6:57 pm to
quote:

lsufan1971


The amount of income one makes has absolutely no bearing on needing a CPA
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