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re: Who in here follows the "FIRE" mindset when it comes to money?

Posted on 6/14/24 at 12:59 pm to
Posted by TorchtheFlyingTiger
1st coast
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 6/14/24 at 12:59 pm to
401k and IRA are accessible penalty free as others have noted. Besides, you still need $ for 59.5 and beyond.

Taxable brokerage is very useful but not necessary for ER.

FI can be achieved w moderate incomes especially dual income. It just takes discipline and a bit of frugality (not austerity.) A few key decisions can make huge differences (buying modest cars and driving them longer and buying less home than peers.)
Posted by GeauxTigers123
Member since Feb 2007
2463 posts
Posted on 6/14/24 at 1:26 pm to
Didn you do 20+ years in the military? I imagine a steady income from pension is a big part of your plan??
Posted by tigerbacon
Arkansas
Member since Aug 2010
4194 posts
Posted on 6/14/24 at 5:32 pm to
I actually just calculated my FI age and I’ll be FI at 50. I will have have plenty to not work but will always work. After 2-3 days I get bored. My wife is the same way. So neither of us plan on retiring because we love what we do but that doesn’t stop us from living on 40% of our take home and saving 60%. Really not hard to either
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24737 posts
Posted on 6/14/24 at 7:32 pm to
Without a pension, how are people retiring early without a taxable brokerage to bridge it?
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
44430 posts
Posted on 6/14/24 at 7:36 pm to
Have been pretty big into FIRE the past five years or so. I'm at my FI number at 35. But definitely not ready to retire
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24737 posts
Posted on 6/14/24 at 8:05 pm to
Spill the beans on your number
Posted by TorchtheFlyingTiger
1st coast
Member since Jan 2008
2671 posts
Posted on 6/14/24 at 8:09 pm to
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Without a pension, how are people retiring early without a taxable brokerage

Rule of 55, 72(t) SEPP, Roth conversion ladder, Roth contributions, rental income

But of course, a taxable brokerage really helps.
This post was edited on 6/14/24 at 10:49 pm
Posted by Asharad
Tiamat
Member since Dec 2010
6050 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 6:38 am to
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Who in here follows the "FIRE" mindset when it comes to money?
I used to, but when I turned 50 I decided to start blowing money on travel. My wife and I want to travel while we are still healthy. If this means working longer so be it. Enjoy life while you can because one health crisis will crush your FIRE plans
Posted by RoyalWe
Prairieville, LA
Member since Mar 2018
3765 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 7:56 am to
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Without a pension, how are people retiring early without a taxable brokerage to bridge it?
I plan on using the Rule of 55 if I make it that far. If not, I'll pay the 10% penalty on IRA distributions.
Posted by Newgene
Waveland, MS
Member since Nov 2005
7272 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 9:20 am to
It is a tough one to figure out how much you'll really need in retirement. As we are experiencing now, inflation is seriously forcing people to adjust. If you retire at 55-60, it's a lot easier to figure out what you'll need when you are making the actual call at 54-59. Making the wrong call on where inflation and taxes will go, when you're only 35, may leave you returning to work at 40. Someone retiring at 35, likely has worked only 17 years, and is trying to make that last for another 40-50 years. I think someone retiring at 35 is really only saying they are "retiring" from one job to another form of work, whereas at 55, you should be able to say work is over if you want to.
Posted by Junky
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2005
8868 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 10:47 am to
I know a guy who hit it big on the Facebook ipo years ago and retired at 30. He became bored and ended up working for them as a consultant.

Our fire mindset is that we are always going to work and produce income as we would be driven insane otherwise. We travel, and experience life, but our lifestyle is work which is fine.

There’s some meaning to life behind producing and building. We certainly will always work. “Retired” and letting our children own/run the farm but still work.

My father “fire’d” at 50 and all he does is sit around and watch tv for years. I want my years to be active, in the weather, being able to push the younger generation along.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
40526 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 11:21 am to
Looking at some coast theories

Aka do I have enough at 45 just to let it grow and put more free cash flow in travel hobbies
This post was edited on 6/15/24 at 2:29 pm
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24737 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 12:54 pm to
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Looking at some coast theories



This is the way. You are most of the way to FI if you are just cash flowing your annual expenses with your paychecks.

We've basically reached Coast FIRE at this stage...just a matter of rate of return, time, and gain/loss sequences.

Compounding figures become pretty wild when a few points in market performance in a month drives you up or down 5 or 6 digit changes in net worth.
Posted by FinleyStreet
Member since Aug 2011
8000 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 4:43 pm to
I want to coastfire but I'm just too chickenshit to actually do it.
Posted by 98eagle
Member since Sep 2020
2640 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 5:11 pm to
My wife and I basically financially followed FIRE for a couple of decades without even knowing anything about FIRE. We both retired early (she retired almost 15 years ago and I retired almost 5 years ago). Neither of us are SS eligible yet. We were frugal and saved as much as possible, and we used to do very cheap things for vacations, such as camping and day hikes at state parks, etc. She ran a very successful business but it worked her into the ground so she retired well before me. I was in a corporate career that paid a lot and good benefits, but it was very stressful. I was also very good at investing and still excel at that. Now our investments are paying way more than we ever made when we worked. We bought our dream lake home near a great small/medium sized town are we are no longer frugal and we buy and do basically whatever we want.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
40526 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 5:15 pm to
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I want to coastfire but I'm just too chickenshit to actually do it.



Lol 45 calculator says I am there but I am like let me just max 401k for 5 more years until 50
Posted by RT1980
Member since Sep 2020
203 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 10:37 pm to
I just hit COAST at 32 but if I give it another 3-5 years I'll be more than set. Pretty nice feeling though
Posted by CharlesUFarley
Daphne, AL
Member since Jan 2022
743 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 10:51 pm to
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If not, I'll pay the 10% penalty on IRA distributions.


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Posted by RoyalWe
Prairieville, LA
Member since Mar 2018
3765 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 5:57 am to
72(t) won't provide enough income for my lifestyle.
Posted by CharlesUFarley
Daphne, AL
Member since Jan 2022
743 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 7:43 am to
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72(t) won't provide enough income for my lifestyle.


Then you might want to reconsider tapping your IRA early.
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