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re: What’s a great net worth by 45?

Posted on 8/6/23 at 1:08 pm to
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 8/6/23 at 1:08 pm to
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My biggest concern is that my net worth is tied up in retirement accounts

Wish I had more in my brokerage which is only at $100k or so


I am in a similar place should I still be maxing 401k over individual investment (44y old). Next year car/ personal loans roll off should be able to bank it. Still long run should I be adjusting less retirement account.

Where are you cash/ emergency fund
Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
17437 posts
Posted on 8/6/23 at 1:38 pm to
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Does she make sandwiches though?


She makes a damn fine sandwich
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
40483 posts
Posted on 8/6/23 at 1:40 pm to
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She makes a damn fine sandwich


You hit lottery congrats lol
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26005 posts
Posted on 8/6/23 at 2:03 pm to
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What is your household income?

With my wife's full time job, we are probably about $180k.

My take home is about $60k/yr. As my income increased, we were able to pretty much maintain our lifestyle without increasing our budget (throwing more into 401k, HSA, and brokerage account).

I am also fortunate that my employer has a small pension.
Posted by masoncj
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2023
471 posts
Posted on 8/6/23 at 2:09 pm to
$100k give or take

Great you’re about to be debt free!

9 years till mortgage (last debt) is paid off but might accelerate that once i see what our youngest college cost will be.

I really want to retire from rat race of corporate sales by 55

Get more involved with Knight of Columbus and St Vincent DePaul
This post was edited on 8/6/23 at 2:10 pm
Posted by meansonny
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Member since Sep 2012
26005 posts
Posted on 8/6/23 at 2:28 pm to
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$500k?

$1m?

$1.5m?

Stocks, cash, home equity, etc


I don't think the actual number is that important.

I think what is important is that folks do as much as they can early.

I've tracked/logged my net worth for the past 9 years. The net worth doubles every 26 to 42 months (36 months being best "average").

When times are "good", get as much as you can invested. Because doubling every 40 months can go a long way if given enough time.
Posted by BigApple
Member since Jun 2022
889 posts
Posted on 8/6/23 at 6:29 pm to
What are we factoring in as far as net worth? 401k? stock holdings? Retirement accounts? home equity?

If we count all of that, I’m between 4 and 4.5 million. I’m 49, fwiw.
Posted by MrJimBeam
Member since Apr 2009
12906 posts
Posted on 8/6/23 at 6:36 pm to
I’ve got about 3.50 million but I’m 35
Posted by turkish
Member since Aug 2016
2120 posts
Posted on 8/6/23 at 8:32 pm to
Since we’re on the topic, what do you feel are good inputs for growth, inflation, SWR on this coast fire calculator? LINK /
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
14026 posts
Posted on 8/6/23 at 9:11 pm to
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My take home is about $60k/yr.


You have 4 children, a wife that did not work for 10 years, take home $60k per year and have a $950k net worth at age 45? That is pretty freaking awesome.
This post was edited on 8/6/23 at 9:13 pm
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24735 posts
Posted on 8/6/23 at 9:59 pm to
Eh, there’s not a right assumption…I went with:

3% inflation, 7% growth, and 3% SWR
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26005 posts
Posted on 8/6/23 at 10:11 pm to
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You have 4 children, a wife that did not work for 10 years, take home $60k per year and have a $950k net worth at age 45? That is pretty freaking awesome

Take home is after my 401k, HSA, and savings contributions.

That's kind of exactly the point.

(More information than you need... but my car, home, and life insurance is deducted from my paycheck as well. My wifes take home is about $44k with her full time job) ).
This post was edited on 8/6/23 at 10:13 pm
Posted by turkish
Member since Aug 2016
2120 posts
Posted on 8/7/23 at 6:49 am to
I sure hope you’re right!
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
89840 posts
Posted on 8/7/23 at 7:15 am to
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What are we factoring in as far as net worth? 401k? stock holdings? Retirement accounts? home equity?


All of those count in a traditional sense. I tend to take it a step further and exclude home equity and personal items, simply because they’re not very liquid and the fact that you need shelter/vehicles/etc.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
38699 posts
Posted on 8/7/23 at 10:17 am to
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All of those count in a traditional sense. I tend to take it a step further and exclude home equity and personal items, simply because they’re not very liquid and the fact that you need shelter/vehicles/etc.


Shout out tb08
Posted by kennypowers
AR
Member since Mar 2009
591 posts
Posted on 8/7/23 at 10:45 am to
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$500k?

$1m?

$1.5m?

Stocks, cash, home equity, etc


Real talk for the average American? Probably having a positive net worth by 45 is a big deal. Prime earning years are late 40s to late 50s. Kids out of the house and being able to really start growing investments.
Posted by RoyalWe
Prairieville, LA
Member since Mar 2018
3760 posts
Posted on 8/7/23 at 11:01 am to
I cut back on my 401k contributions in 2021. I was in my late 40s, with >$4MM in liquid assets, and decided it was time to live a little after doing some calculations to see how much doing so would impact the bottom line. Relative to how much my assets were projected to make, the amount of wealth I would generate with continued high contributions was not significant enough for me, so I backed off how much I invested.

Then the crash came in early 2022. My assets dropped, so I didn't feel like I had "made it," and I also recognized the crash as a buying opportunity. I upped my investing again to where I currently am today. I've pretty much recovered, but given the state of the world, I will continue investing unless I get to eight figures.

My family and I live commensurate with our salaries and not our wealth. When we get old enough, we will have access to considerably more assets than we have now. I find it strange that the only option I have now for "qualified" funds is to pay a 10% penalty. I get wanting to dissuade people from "stealing from their retirement," but once you've made a certain amount of money should that still be necessary? Yeah, poor me.
Posted by Sir Saint
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Member since Jun 2010
5434 posts
Posted on 8/7/23 at 11:14 am to
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I find it strange that the only option I have now for "qualified" funds is to pay a 10% penalty. I get wanting to dissuade people from "stealing from their retirement,"


If you decide to pull the plug on working before age 59.5, you can set up a SEPP plan to access your 401k money without the 10% penalty.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
92593 posts
Posted on 8/7/23 at 11:38 am to
The average American retires with essentially nothing saved and relies almost 100% on SS, so OT expectations notwithstanding, one should temper some of these numbers by focusing on median versus average outcomes.
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
13841 posts
Posted on 8/7/23 at 11:58 am to
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As far as “net worth”, I don’t include the house and only count investable assets. Unless you plan on selling your home frequently and using it like an actual investment, it shouldn’t be included.


Net and liquidity are two different things.

Equity in a home counts towards net worth, even though it's not a liquid asset.
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