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re: What would you say the best financial decision you ever made was?

Posted on 7/13/17 at 11:18 am to
Posted by AUjim
America
Member since Dec 2012
3762 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 11:18 am to
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marrying a smart, driven girl


Can not be understated, and should probably be number one on my list. I've got a wife that fully supports our direction, doesn't spend like an idiot, and doesn't complain (too much) about some of the sacrifices we make to maintain a healthy financial life.
Posted by gpburdell
ATL
Member since Jun 2015
1577 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 11:31 am to
Investing as much as I could in 401k and Roth ira from day 1 on the job. Compound interest is an amazing thing. In 15 years, my portfolio has grown to where new yearly contributions don't matter that much.
This post was edited on 7/13/17 at 4:41 pm
Posted by Serraneaux
South of 30a
Member since Mar 2014
22109 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 11:56 am to
I've always contributed at least 6% or whatever was necessary to get the company match. It was also going to grad school after working for about 2 years at a bank right out of college. Outside of this, it's been real estate. My wife and I bought our first house when we were 24 for $165k. 6 years later we sold it after the market crash for $230k and moved to a bigger house that had come down in value after the crash. Also, when the market crashed, I got out of the funds I was in and went all in on the Fidelity Select Banking and Fidelity Select Insurance. I figured these would have bigger bounce backs than the regular funds I was in at the time and boosted my 401k balance. I also took some of our cash and bought C, BAC, and GE for really, really cheap which allowed me to take that money and do other things with it. In the last 26 months, I've bought 4 other properties:

Townhouse for $142k in May 2015 - similar unit just sold for $215k

Townhouse for $231k in Dec 2015 - similar unit just sold for $310k

Townhouse for $198k in Aug 16 - similar unit just sold for 215k (not excited about this one but it rents extremely easy)

House to flip for $225k in May 2017 and about to list it for $370k.

I originally did these as another way to invest money, pay for kids college, retire early, beach house one day, etc. We don't go out and get new cars every few years and don't spend much on consumer goods mainly because we don't have time to shop.
This post was edited on 7/13/17 at 12:03 pm
Posted by crazycubes
Member since Jan 2016
5256 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 12:31 pm to
max contributions to my 401K at the very beginning of my career (mid 20's).

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marrying a smart, driven girl


Can not be understated, and should probably be number one on my list. I've got a wife that fully supports our direction, doesn't spend like an idiot, and doesn't complain (too much) about some of the sacrifices we make to maintain a healthy financial life.


this too
This post was edited on 7/13/17 at 12:34 pm
Posted by monteandmakers
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2014
188 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 12:33 pm to
Sold house for $80k more than purchased after 2 years. Good return for a <$400k house.
Posted by GoIrish02
Member since Mar 2012
1491 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 12:34 pm to
I own a condo in the warehouse district too, near Julia & Tchoupitoulas, rented long term since 2006. I bought it right after Katrina and got laid off between scheduled closing (8/29/05) and actual closing in March 2006.

I've thought about short term use but thought the turnaround costs, variability of occupancy and the demand on my time would exceed long term rental profit. I started renting it for $1,900 per month in 06, currently rent for $2,400 now on annual basis, only 2 months of vacancy in 11 years. (2 bed, 2 bath, owned parking space). I'd appreciate your experience, numbers and advice with the short term rental business. Thanks!
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
7726 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 12:40 pm to
Not going back to NOLA after Katrina.
Posted by GoIrish02
Member since Mar 2012
1491 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 12:40 pm to
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Sold house for $80k more than purchased after 2 years. Good return for a <$400k house.


10% average (gross) annual rate of return seems like a good return to you? Once you acknowledge transaction costs and ownership/maintenance costs, you're below 10%, probably closer to the average 7% annual return on housing (according to Shiller). S&P 500 has been ~17% over last 12 months, you'd do better in index funds.
Posted by monteandmakers
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2014
188 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 12:49 pm to
You have to live somewhere, you can pay rent for 0 return or buy something and hope to make a return.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 1:01 pm to
Definitely. And he could have gotten a cardboard box for free to live in. No electricity, no water. Free living!
Posted by GoIrish02
Member since Mar 2012
1491 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 1:04 pm to
Rent gives you the flexibility to invest your capital in its most efficient way, without the significant costs and illiquidity of ownership.

The ROI, plus the flexibility/ liquidity from renting and investing is more profitable in my opinion and personal experience. Objectively, the return from equities has exceeded the return on (owner-occupied) housing for the past 100+ years.

Renting creates a ceiling on your housing costs, ownership creates a floor for your housing costs.

Admittedly, Louisiana is one of the few places where buying is cheaper than renting generally, but in most places that is not the case. It is dangerous to assign emotional significance to what should be rational economic decisions and most conventional wisdom on home ownership is misguided.
This post was edited on 7/13/17 at 1:15 pm
Posted by AUjim
America
Member since Dec 2012
3762 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 1:56 pm to
quote:

10% average (gross) annual rate of return seems like a good return to you? Once you acknowledge transaction costs and ownership/maintenance costs, you're below 10%, probably closer to the average 7% annual return on housing (according to Shiller). S&P 500 has been ~17% over last 12 months, you'd do better in index funds.


Yeah...but.....he more than likely didn't have to invest 400K to get that return. Only cash at risk was his down payment....Right??

ETA-and not that people care, but I'm not your downvoter
This post was edited on 7/13/17 at 2:03 pm
Posted by LSU5508
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2007
3753 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:02 pm to
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I've thought about short term use but thought the turnaround costs, variability of occupancy and the demand on my time would exceed long term rental profit. I started renting it for $1,900 per month in 06, currently rent for $2,400 now on annual basis, only 2 months of vacancy in 11 years. (2 bed, 2 bath, owned parking space). I'd appreciate your experience, numbers and advice with the short term rental business. Thanks!


I would need to know more about your condo. I can tell you I manage two properties one which is mine which is a three bedroom and another for a friend which is a two bedroom. They both do extremely well. However three bedrooms or sleeping for 6 people seems to be the sweet spot. Both units can house six people however technically the cities new regulations say two people per bedroom with no people in the living area. I am ignoring this thus far but there may be a day where they crack down.

Both units stay occupied most of the year most downtime is in August. Both units average between 5000 and 8000 a month depending on what's going on in town. Your operational cost are Entergy which tends to be high, janitorial services and supplies. Also check with your condo association and zoning laws as many forbid rentals

If you want to talk more you can email me at lsu5508@gmail.com
This post was edited on 7/13/17 at 2:15 pm
Posted by crazycubes
Member since Jan 2016
5256 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:09 pm to
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Rent gives you the flexibility to invest your capital in its most efficient way,
the thing is, that in some town you don't have any capital left after renting in a safe neighborhood.
Posted by GeauxZone90
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2010
3250 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:16 pm to
Best financial decision is going to a public school instate and not to any other school. Know so many people who have so much financial loans. Con- Can't find a job but work the family business.

For my dad it was buying a commercial property for 500k and now worth over 1.2 - 1.5m about 70k in rental income if full rented out

Posted by ConfusedHawgInMO
Member since Apr 2014
3578 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:22 pm to
Put money in a 401k from day 1 & haven't stopped. Haven't missed a cent of it. I'll never be rich, but I should have a financially stress free retirement.
Posted by gpburdell
ATL
Member since Jun 2015
1577 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 4:38 pm to
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Best financial decision is going to a public school instate and not to any other school.


+1

I was lucky to have a public school like Georgia Tech to be instate for me. It only cost ~30k to get my degree from there.
Posted by TheWalrus
Land of the Hogs
Member since Dec 2012
46135 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 6:05 pm to
Dropping out of law school rather than accumulating 250 k in debt when I wasn't sure I even wanted to be a lawyer.
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
20151 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 6:32 pm to
Spending less than I make.
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 7:35 pm to
quote:

Rent gives you the flexibility to invest your capital in its most efficient way, without the significant costs and illiquidity of ownership.


Mortgages give you the opportunity to buy inventments worth hundreds of thousands of dollars for as little as 5 cents on the dollar. Those 10% gains were made with 20% or less of the cost, and 25% of the interest was tax deductible. And you can raise a family in that investment. Very rarely, at least in my market, is the interest alone more expensive than rent on apples to apples property. You can literally buy a warranty on a house that covers everything for $500/yr. If houses were these money pits you rentards said they were, these companies would be out of business. But they rake hand over fist.

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