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re: What to pay off first?

Posted on 11/1/17 at 11:08 am to
Posted by southernelite
Dallas
Member since Sep 2009
53151 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 11:08 am to
And I promise you, I'll be the first to admit that I don't handle my finances perfectly, but I'm not in that kind of hole.
Posted by FieldMink
Fort Worth
Member since Jul 2017
797 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 11:12 am to
Well thats what it is. Im not an expert just like the next young adult may not be.

The APR on the card is 19.99%.
As far as my 401k, from my understanding we're allowed to contribute up to 13%. I'll need to dig in deeper for the level of understanding that you own. But overall i contribute about $200 to 401k and $80 to roth

Like i said in another post, sometimes you make dumb decisions or decisions that you think you can handle. When i purchased the car my interest rate was 6.9%. Yeah i know thats high

I already do a monthly budget. Have since beginning of last year at least.
Posted by FieldMink
Fort Worth
Member since Jul 2017
797 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 11:21 am to
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but I'm not in that kind of hole


I didn't plan on being either. After i graduated LSU and stayed home, was able to pay down the credit card(s) (think i had one or two at the time). Saved about a stack ($1k) a every two week and lived on $500. Then came moving to BR and adulting. Long story short, few things in life happened and now my boat has holes with ducktape.
Posted by lnomm34
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2009
12605 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 11:21 am to
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The APR on the card is 19.99%.


For the record, that is absurdly high. Just simplifying things a little bit (ignoring slowly reducing balance throughout the year), think about it this way: you have $12,600 in credit card debt. You'll pay over $2,500 in interest on this in a year.

If you can transfer to a 0% card, that $2,500 that you would pay to interest would go directly to the outstanding balance.

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As far as my 401k, from my understanding we're allowed to contribute up to 13%. I'll need to dig in deeper for the level of understanding that you own. But overall i contribute about $200 to 401k and $80 to roth



$200 to 401k per paycheck? Do you get paid weekly? If so, and that's 13% of your paycheck, you're grossing $80k/year.

You're doing well income wise. As someone else said, you have a spending problem.

It'll suck for a minute, but take the steps I outlined previously (and everyone else is recommending) and knock this shite out of your life. You'll free up a shite load of money per month, then you can start knocking hard on the student loans. Imagine your life with no student loan payment, no car note, no credit card payments. What could you do with that money to create wealth for yourself????

I know Dave Ramsey gets beat on here at Money Talk. But, he has a great saying: "Live like no one else, so that later, you can live like no one else." Make the sacrifices now, invest in your future, and reap the rewards later in life.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 11:24 am to
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Well thats what it is. Im not an expert just like the next young adult may not be.


You don't need to be an expert. You just need to understand what you're borrowing and how it effects you.

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The APR on the card is 19.99%.


Cut it up, pay it down asap.

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As far as my 401k, from my understanding we're allowed to contribute up to 13%. I'll need to dig in deeper for the level of understanding that you own.


Ask questions during open enrollment. Call your benefits administrator and figure out what is going on. But at the moment, I'd suspend the $280 into retirement and aggressively pay down your credit cards.

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Like i said in another post, sometimes you make dumb decisions or decisions that you think you can handle.


We've all been there, or done them. Just trying to help you out.

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I already do a monthly budget. Have since beginning of last year at least.




Then where are your gaps? What do you see being excess that you can cut back on?

And get those student loans out of deferment ASAP. All they're doing is accumulating interest and delaying you even longer.
Posted by ATLdawg25
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2014
4370 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 11:27 am to
Everyone in here is being pretty harsh, but it's for a good reason.

You need to sell your car and buy something with cash (or as close as you can come, supplemented with the smallest car note possible).

You need to stop contributing to your 401k. You're making what, 12% per year? You are giving all of that away plus some with your high interest credit cards and inflated payment on an old, always depreciating car.

It's a great goal to have a paid off car, but a paid off 10 year old Audi will probably need the equivalent of a car note in repairs. Get something cheaper/newer/less miles and it will help every other aspect of your finances.

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Long story short, few things in life happened and now my boat has holes with ducktape.


You probably didn't intend it to come off as an excuse, but everything up to now is irrelevant. Make the changes everyone has recommended, and it will get cleaned up faster than you think.
Posted by FieldMink
Fort Worth
Member since Jul 2017
797 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 11:27 am to
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If you can transfer to a 0% card


Looking for some. Was thinking maybe with my own bank even but there are no offers so i'll shop around.

Get paid every two weeks. A normal 9-5. I roughly make that, depends on the year and overtime.

I understand. Its something i've been battling since last year. Least in really understanding that i need to do something about it.
Posted by ATLdawg25
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2014
4370 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 11:29 am to
I would like to point that the 0% interest card will help, but use it as a tool in conjunction with other major changes, otherwise you will still be in this position when the promo period runs out.
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
11794 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 12:10 pm to
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Credit score was crap so high interest rate indeed. Cost of the car was $31k? I dont recall the actual dollar amount off top my head but thats ball park.


looking at your monthly note and backing in $31k at 84 months, it looks like you have a 12.5% interest rate....

that is extremely high for a car note. with interest your $31k car will cost you over $46k

sell the car. take whats left after paying off the loan and buy a car for cash with the portion thats left. right there you will have $550+ month to put on the credit card. pay off the on with the highest interest rate
Posted by southernelite
Dallas
Member since Sep 2009
53151 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 12:26 pm to
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sell the car. take whats left after paying off the loan and buy a car for cash with the portion thats left. right there you will have $550+ month to put on the credit card. pay off the on with the highest interest rate



This dude is underwater. I highly doubt that he can get out from under the cE with any cash to purchase a new, and likely will have to come out of pocket to cover the difference.
Posted by southernelite
Dallas
Member since Sep 2009
53151 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 12:27 pm to
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would like to point that the 0% interest card will help


I doubt he can get abother card with a 0% interest intro offer.
Posted by lsujro
north of the wall
Member since Jul 2007
3919 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 1:11 pm to
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he APR on the card is 19.99%.


completely stop contributing to 401k until all cc debt is paid off. your return on paying that off is higher than you will make in your 401k over the same span. once the cards are paid off, then start back with 401k. this all requires discipline though. if you don't trust yourself to actually start back contributions, or if you don't think you can cut your spending enough to keep from running up debt again, then you shouldn't do this.
Posted by FieldMink
Fort Worth
Member since Jul 2017
797 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 1:17 pm to
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This dude is underwater


Well thanks sir. Trying to float. Sometimes shite happens and you find yourself in situations you weren't expecting.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 1:18 pm to
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Well thanks sir. Trying to float. Sometimes shite happens and you find yourself in situations you weren't expecting.


He’s talking about your car.
Posted by FieldMink
Fort Worth
Member since Jul 2017
797 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 1:20 pm to
I know
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4081 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 6:52 pm to
No need for you to fall on your sword. You've got an issue and you realize it, unlike so many who think that they've got it all under control (as the water starts coming up to their nose). You just need a plan and need to work the plan.

There's some good advice on here. Set a strict budget and stick to it... no matter what. The Audi is a nice car. But as it ages, I guarantee that it's going to begin giving you heart attacks when you take it in for service. If you're not too far under water, I'd begin looking to sell it before it gets much older. Then get a reasonable, reliable used car. As others have said, I'd stop or severely cut back on the 401K until you address your debt situation. If you can get a 0% balance transfer card, go for it. But don't put the first purchase on it, even if it's for a kidney transplant.

You can work your way out of this. It's not an ideal situation, but it's not THAT bad.

Good luck.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 10:55 pm to
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Well you're somewhat being a dick but basically the $80 is the interest charged monthly. I haven't looked at the percentage rate.


I'm not trying to be a dick, but the percentage rate is how much it costs you to borrow. It is much more important than your monthly income/outgo.

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Contributing 13% into 401k (which i believe is the max and no company matching).




Sigh. The max can be googled very easily. Get serious about your financial future.
Posted by Slevin7
Member since Sep 2015
1954 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 11:33 pm to
Good news field mink!

You're going to be okay!

Step 1 is saying "WTF is going on"

There's some good advice on this board. Audi has to go. Almost everything I could think to say was on this thread. The only thing I will add is credit cards will eat you alive. The 0% transfer was mentioned. Not sure how new credit lines affect score but it might be worth it to simplify bills and stop the bleeding. You will bounce. Anyway, the only thing I would add is pay those mfer's off furiously. Viciously. Make it your new hobby. If you find a fricking quarter on the side walk mail it in.

That and don't buy things that don't make you money. Audi is a status symbol. Might get you a date. Might get you a wife. Congrats. Now you have a status symbol wife you have to finance. Get a reliable car you love. Same for wife.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51895 posts
Posted on 11/2/17 at 3:40 am to
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move to the Ft worth burbs or something. You need to free up as much cash flow as possible.


I’ll throw him this bone:

He is getting a very average rate for the Fort Worth area.

I was paying that in rent on the outer ring before civilization drops off. There are pockets of cheaper, but they aren’t common, and half of them are in bad areas.

Roommate could possibly help, but you’d be surprised how much they get away pricing it in. You’ll save, but not much. If you can afford the “loan” till your income tax return, buying in the DFW area is significantly cheaper than renting. Mortgage on two bedroom, new construction houses can be half that of rent of one bedroom apartment.
This post was edited on 11/2/17 at 3:42 am
Posted by Chris4x4gill2
North Alabama
Member since Nov 2008
3092 posts
Posted on 11/2/17 at 6:49 am to
This dude is not going to take any of the advice here guys. He is looking for a quick fix, not a real solution. He is still trying to justify bad decisions rather than admitting that what he is doing isn't working. He isn't ready to change yet. He's not going to sell the car, he isn't going to aggressively pay down the CC and 2 years from now he will have paid off the Audi, but be putting all of the maintenance on another CC just like the last car.


OP needs to wake up and Make a change if he wants something to change.
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