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What investment vehicles can be used once you pass the income limits of a Roth IRA?

Posted on 4/11/22 at 2:47 pm
Posted by Hammond Tiger Fan
Hammond
Member since Oct 2007
16216 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 2:47 pm
My wife and I are expecting to pass the income limits to continue contributing towards a ROTH for 2022. For years, I thought I'd just transition towards a traditional IRA once I reached the thresholds for the ROTH. When looking up the income limits today for the traditional IRA, I see that it's the same as the ROTH. So, what do people do to continue to make contributions towards some type of retirement investment account once they pass the incomes of both the traditional and ROTH IRAs? I would like to continue saving in some type of retirement investment vehicle.
This post was edited on 4/11/22 at 2:52 pm
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
11909 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 3:01 pm to
quote:

My wife and I are expecting to pass the income limits to continue contributing towards a ROTH for 2022. For years, I thought I'd just transition towards a traditional IRA once I reached the thresholds for the ROTH. When looking up the income limits today for the traditional IRA, I see that it's the same as the ROTH. So, what do people do to continue to make contributions towards some type of retirement investment account once they pass the incomes of both the traditional and ROTH IRAs? I would like to continue saving in some type of retirement investment vehicle.


You can still contribute to a traditional IRA if you chose. The limits relate to the deductibility of the contribution. Alternatively, you could just contribute to a brokerage account if you do not want to contribute to a traditional IRA without the deduction.
Posted by UltimaParadox
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2008
40858 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 3:09 pm to
Backdoor Roth IRA

Investopedia backdoor Roth
Posted by TheWiz
Third World, LA
Member since Aug 2007
11678 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 3:19 pm to
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Backdoor Roth IRA

This for sure. Amazed at how many people never seem to know about it.

Taxable account

Mega backdoor Roth if your plan allows it. Not all that common.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37105 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 4:22 pm to
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Backdoor Roth IRA


This is where I give my advice about making damn sure you don't have ANY balances in traditional, SEP, or Simple IRAs before you go this route.

Every year I pick up a few clients who did not realize this.
Posted by Billy Blanks
Member since Dec 2021
3807 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 6:02 pm to
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Backdoor Roth IRA


This is where I give my advice about making damn sure you don't have ANY balances in traditional, SEP, or Simple IRAs before you go this route.

Every year I pick up a few clients who did not realize this.




I did this last year and paid the tax bill on this. Anything else I need to know?
Posted by gpburdell
ATL
Member since Jun 2015
1423 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 6:36 pm to
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I would like to continue saving in some type of retirement investment vehicle.


Max out your HSA if you aren't already. Alot of people don't realize that it's basically a trad IRA if u withdrawal for non medical. So it won't go to waste if you don't have that many medical expenses.
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
15761 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 7:10 pm to
We have been opting for backdoor Roth. Researching I-bonds now.

If you maxing 401k (if eligible) and executing the backdoor Roth, perhaps it’s time to consult a Financial Advisor. It’s free to talk.
Posted by Puffoluffagus
Savannah, GA
Member since Feb 2009
6098 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 8:30 pm to
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What investment vehicles can be used once you pass the income limits of a Roth IRA?


Backdoor Roth(if no trad ita, sep iras etc.), mega backdoor Roth(if allowed as mentioned), max 401k, if you have a side gig consider divesting profits in a solo 401k, syndications/reits/traditional real estate, regular brokerage accounts.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48949 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 8:35 pm to
traditional ira and set up a brokerage account with funds etc
Posted by turkish
Member since Aug 2016
1754 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 9:21 pm to
So if I have a balance in a trad IRA, Is it advantageous to bite the bullet and pay the taxes to allow the backdoor?
Posted by seawolf06
NH
Member since Oct 2007
8159 posts
Posted on 4/12/22 at 6:53 am to
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So if I have a balance in a trad IRA, Is it advantageous to bite the bullet and pay the taxes to allow the backdoor?



It depends
Posted by tgrmeat
Member since Sep 2020
4342 posts
Posted on 4/12/22 at 7:43 am to
I have always contributed directly to my Roth IRA. Last year was the first year I had to go the Backdoor route. This year my money sat in my traditional IRA for long enough to earn $.02 interest. Is that going to screw me up next year? What's the worst that can happen? I have to pay tax on the $.02? Or is it more complicated than that?
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48949 posts
Posted on 4/12/22 at 8:11 am to
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So if I have a balance in a trad IRA, Is it advantageous to bite the bullet and pay the taxes to allow the backdoor?



Think it depends on how much, time to retirement etc

Personally I don't worry about it too much. Already have an amount that I don't want to get a tax hit on. I just go traditional and let the Roth grow in it's own
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
5514 posts
Posted on 4/12/22 at 10:19 am to
Be mindful of the Biden Build Back Better bill. He was targeting backdoor Roths. It has stalled out for now and may never go through, but just keep an eye on it.
Posted by Ric Flair
Charlotte
Member since Oct 2005
13657 posts
Posted on 4/12/22 at 2:29 pm to
457 plan if “highly compensated” at a nonprofit such as a hospital. HSA as well.
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