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re: Trump commutes 7-year sentence of PE leader David Gentile who defrauded people of $1.6B

Posted on 12/3/25 at 9:00 am to
Posted by DeCat ODahouse
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2017
1676 posts
Posted on 12/3/25 at 9:00 am to
Most of the other nominees are as easy to pin as grifters as Trump, as can be said for every politician D or R currently in office, albeit of less visionary scale.

Trump's great strength vs. the others is that he does seem to see his wealth and that of his descendants as being tied to this country being successful and powerful.

It is not unpragmatic to vote for him given the alternative offered by the delusional government-exists-to-perfect-society at any/all costs agenda driven by the pseudo religion of the left.

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Republican Nikki Haley 4,381,799 19.68%
Republican Ron DeSantis 353,615 1.59%
Republican Chris Christie 139,541 0.63%
Republican Vivek Ramaswamy 96,954 0.44%
Republican Asa Hutchinson 22,044 0.10%
Republican Perry Johnson 4,051 0.02%
Republican Tim Scott 1,598 0.01%
Republican Doug Burgum 502 0.00%
Republican Mike Pence 404 0.00%
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35381 posts
Posted on 12/3/25 at 9:53 pm to
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He has a place in his heart for the scammers who bilked millions.
He just pardoned a corrupt democrat too, so at least his affinity for corruption and scamming transcends partisan politics.
Posted by BRPelican45
Member since Dec 2016
181 posts
Posted on 12/4/25 at 11:56 am to
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The electorate is about 30% Republican, so you are arguing about 100% of Republicans are wild-eyed Trump fans. That's crazy, or you didn't mean to type out "electorate" - in which case, if you're arguing 25% of Republicans are what you're describing, then I'd say that's about right. I'd argue it's closer to 20% and maybe a bit lower, but you're at least in the ballpark at 25%.


Per YouGov/The Economist in March 2025, 53% of Republican voters are MAGA, or in other words, "a wild-eyed Trump fan".

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To be clear, I'm looking for a "majority of Trump voters" feeling victimized about something.


These should be obvious, but here is a list off the top of various things Trump voters (MAGA folks, not necessarily broader Republicans) feel victimized about.

- Illegal immigration and cultural displacement - no qualms whatsoever with what is going on with the masked men snatching people off the street, no issue at all with Trump's rhetoric on the topic (shithole countries, "rapists", the recent racist diatribe aimed people with Somalian ancestry in the country)

- The way people express their gender identity (all the "trans people are in womens restroom!" stuff from a couple years back that still persists today, as well as the sports discussion)

- Colleges and universities indoctrinating young impressionable minds with the Liberal Woke Mind Virus™

- Schools teaching children that America and Americans are in fact not always the good guys

- Perceived lost of status/mobility/visibility thanks to DEI initiatives and society embracing DEI-esque ideals ("wHy ArE tHeRe No WhItEs In CoMmErCiAlS aNyMoRe?!" is a common refrain that crystalizes the nature of this greivance)

- Job security/Economy - a desire to return to a world before globalization and outsourcing, despite the fact that the proverbial toothpaste absolutely cannot and will not go back into the tube; and as a consequence, resentment towards college educated people instead of suits and politicians (of both parties) that got the wheels in motion on this before many of them were even alive (which ties into bullet #3)

- An intense distrust of a "liberal media" despite the fact that they themselves consume unapologetically conservative media to reinforce their worldview and continue to fuel their grievances and don't appear intellectually capable of critically analyzing media bias in the first place

- Post-Covid, complete distrust of the medical/scientific community. How thrilled MAGA must be to see RFK as Secretary of HHS. "Do your own research" on YouTube, podcasts, and via QAnon.

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The vast majority of Trump voters are not brainwashed, do not see themselves as victims, and don't cheer Trump nonsense or grift


Sorry, but that is simply not the case my man they are fully on board and love whats going on right now.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
49046 posts
Posted on 12/4/25 at 12:35 pm to
just visit the politics board. I can’t believe the cognitive dissonance there it’s just shocking to me. Whatever nonsense or obviously dishonest or blatantly criminal behavior is next in line they are fine with it, as long as it owns the libs.

the distrust everything and everyone with one exception
Posted by bigjoe1
Member since Jan 2024
1869 posts
Posted on 12/4/25 at 2:01 pm to
[quote]I can’t believe the cognitive dissonance there it’s just shocking to me. Whatever nonsense or obviously dishonest or blatantly criminal behavior is next in line they are fine with it, as long as it owns the libs.[/


My thoughts as well. Just stunning we're blowing drug runners to Kingdom Come and then turn around and pardon convicted drug dealers.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
49046 posts
Posted on 12/4/25 at 2:08 pm to
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we're blowing drug runners to Kingdom Come
even that is dubious. the USCG says less than 40% of all vessels headed to the US and interdicted at sea are carrying contraband. so the only thing with certainty that can be said is that the US military is dropping ordnance on private vessels and killing people. no indication has been given as to how "we" know theres been drugs onboard each of these boats
Posted by whodatigahbait
Uptown
Member since Oct 2007
1852 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 2:35 pm to
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It looks like there may be solid ground for this action. Here is a relatively objective Reuters article

LINK


I voted for Trump but this is wrong.

I've been following GPB for a long time - well before the pardon or even before it blew up.

I know people who were burned by this, I saw this product being sold first hand it was absolutely was sold under false pretenses.

David Gentile = bad guy who should go to jail.
Posted by BigEasy92
Member since Oct 2025
482 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 7:48 am to
Naive, not enough research and gullible? Idk.
Posted by Fat Bastard
alter hunter
Member since Mar 2009
91114 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 8:17 am to
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hikingfan




look at this open borders, groomer lovin left wing clown. your policies were so much better than trumps! keep melting snowflake.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
26538 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 9:27 am to
My trust in the Biden DOJ is zero.

Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
49046 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 9:34 am to
but your trust in a trump DOJ led by two of his personal lawyers and a podcast host is rock solid? how come every time orangejello steps in horseshite, the response is "but biden"?
Posted by Boss
Member since Dec 2007
1794 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 9:46 am to
That’s the problem with politics nowadays. It’s all deflection. My guy’s a POS but wouldn’t be as bad a POS as your guy. The bar is so low.
Posted by KWL85
Member since Mar 2023
3785 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 9:51 am to
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He has a place in his heart for the scammers who bilked millions.

He just pardoned a corrupt democrat too, so at least his affinity for corruption and scamming transcends partisan politics.


He is not a real Republican. He has ruined the Republican party. Give me a real Republican to vote for in the next election.
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