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re: Taking Social Security early vs. later
Posted on 1/24/25 at 10:31 am to KWL85
Posted on 1/24/25 at 10:31 am to KWL85
Medicare does not go up if you are still working (though income amount may come into play), My wife went on medicare this month and the premiums are the same for someone that is on medicare and not working. She does fall below the $22320 yearly threshhold which may have something to do with the premium amount.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 10:43 am to VABuckeye
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My wife went on medicare this month and the premiums are the same for someone that is on medicare and not working.
There is a charge called an IRMAA if you make a certain about of money you pay more for medicare, like double. Single people hit it at $105K and married at $210K, but that is combined income: SS, pensions/401K/IRA, and investment income.
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This post was edited on 1/24/25 at 10:45 am
Posted on 1/24/25 at 10:54 am to CharlesUFarley
Thanks for the numbers. Yeah, we aren't impacted. 
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Posted on 1/24/25 at 12:25 pm to VABuckeye
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Thanks for the numbers. Yeah, we aren't impacted.
The nasty part of it is that if you have really planned well and have plenty of money for retirement, and decide now would be a great time to buy that boat you always wanted with part of your retirement funds, now there's this extra fee you have to pay.
It's not a terrible amount, but it's kind of insulting. Every time you hear a politician talking about the rich paying their fair share, just think of the average guy wanting to pay off his mortgage from his IRA, and suddenly BIG GOV demands a bigger piece of that.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 2:23 pm to CharlesUFarley
Good reason to have at least a portion of retirement in Roth and/or taxable brokerage so you can top off withdrawals in any given year without triggering IRMAA or higher tax bracket. IRMAA is a bitch because it is a cliff (unlike progressive tax brackets). If you make one $ over limit you trigger the full monthly increase.
This post was edited on 1/24/25 at 2:24 pm
Posted on 1/24/25 at 5:32 pm to VABuckeye
Medicare does not go up if you are still working (though income amount may come into play), My wife went on medicare this month and the premiums are the same for someone that is on medicare and not working. She does fall below the $22320 yearly threshhold which may have something to do with the premium amount.
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It does go up. We are paying an extra $350/month in Medicare premiums due to my income. We also are being taxed a good bit on her social security. She wanted to start taking hers in case of early death. I am holding out partially because of this.
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It does go up. We are paying an extra $350/month in Medicare premiums due to my income. We also are being taxed a good bit on her social security. She wanted to start taking hers in case of early death. I am holding out partially because of this.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 6:32 pm to TigerBR1111
Take it now. I'm taking at 62.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 8:18 pm to KWL85
We are also taxed on 85% of my wife’s SS. We still come out ahead.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 8:19 pm to kywildcatfanone
Terrible advice. If he takes it now making$75k a year the likelihood is that he wont receive a dime from SS because he makes way over the threshold.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 8:21 pm to KWL85
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It does go up. We are paying an extra $350/month in Medicare premiums due to my income. We also are being taxed a good bit on her social security. She wanted to start taking hers in case of early death. I am holding out partially because of this.
Then it appears that your MAGI is over the $210k threshold.
Posted on 1/25/25 at 11:00 am to VABuckeye
One thing to consider.
People here are talking about taking SS at 66 1/2. That is FRA if you were born in 1955 or sooner. If you were born after 1955 your FRA is 67.
Anyone born in 1955 is now 69 or 70 so 66 1/2 probably doesn't apply to anyone in this thread that hasn't taken SS yet.
People here are talking about taking SS at 66 1/2. That is FRA if you were born in 1955 or sooner. If you were born after 1955 your FRA is 67.
Anyone born in 1955 is now 69 or 70 so 66 1/2 probably doesn't apply to anyone in this thread that hasn't taken SS yet.
Posted on 1/25/25 at 6:09 pm to VABuckeye
I was born in ‘58. FRA is 66 and 8 months for me.
Posted on 1/26/25 at 5:08 am to TigerBR1111
Take it early. As early as you can.
Posted on 1/26/25 at 3:28 pm to VABuckeye
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Terrible advice. If he takes it now making$75k a year the likelihood is that he wont receive a dime from SS because he makes way over the threshold.
How much can you make at age 62 if you take SS? I know at 67 you can make whatever you want correct?
Posted on 1/26/25 at 3:48 pm to Double Oh
Correct about 67. The income limit to not affect your SS payment is $22320 for the year. Every $2 over that amount reduces your SS payment by $1.
Posted on 1/26/25 at 3:55 pm to VABuckeye
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Correct about 67. The income limit to not affect your SS payment is $22320 for the year. Every $2 over that amount reduces your SS payment by $1.
Gotcha.
So i can only make $22,320 per year? Yea fuk that time to come up with a gameplan. Maybe put my wife down as owner. Lots of cash deals going forward.
Posted on 1/26/25 at 3:59 pm to TigerBR1111
Question 1. How long do you intend to work. If you don't want to retire, wait.
Question 2: How long do you expect to live? If your parents and siblings died in their 60s or early 70s, if you have diabetes, or if you smoke, take it now and retire or cut back at work to spend time doing what you like.
Question 2: How long do you expect to live? If your parents and siblings died in their 60s or early 70s, if you have diabetes, or if you smoke, take it now and retire or cut back at work to spend time doing what you like.
Posted on 1/26/25 at 4:05 pm to TigerBR1111
quote:The answer is counterintuitive.
Taking Social Security early vs. later
If you need SS, put it off as long as you can.
If you don't need SS, take it early.
Posted on 1/26/25 at 6:22 pm to NC_Tigah
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If you need SS, put it off as long as you can.
If you don't need SS, take it early.
Posted on 1/26/25 at 6:53 pm to Double Oh
Keep in mind that $22320 is MAGI. Modified adjusted gross income. But yeah, $22320 is a tough number to hit. We’re able to do it for my wife’s small bookkeeping business but it’s no bueno for most people.
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