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re: Taking Social Security early vs. later

Posted on 1/24/25 at 10:31 am to
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
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Posted on 1/24/25 at 10:31 am to
Medicare does not go up if you are still working (though income amount may come into play), My wife went on medicare this month and the premiums are the same for someone that is on medicare and not working. She does fall below the $22320 yearly threshhold which may have something to do with the premium amount.
Posted by CharlesUFarley
Daphne, AL
Member since Jan 2022
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Posted on 1/24/25 at 10:43 am to
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My wife went on medicare this month and the premiums are the same for someone that is on medicare and not working.


There is a charge called an IRMAA if you make a certain about of money you pay more for medicare, like double. Single people hit it at $105K and married at $210K, but that is combined income: SS, pensions/401K/IRA, and investment income.

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This post was edited on 1/24/25 at 10:45 am
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
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Posted on 1/24/25 at 10:54 am to
Thanks for the numbers. Yeah, we aren't impacted.
This post was edited on 1/24/25 at 10:55 am
Posted by CharlesUFarley
Daphne, AL
Member since Jan 2022
897 posts
Posted on 1/24/25 at 12:25 pm to
quote:

Thanks for the numbers. Yeah, we aren't impacted.


The nasty part of it is that if you have really planned well and have plenty of money for retirement, and decide now would be a great time to buy that boat you always wanted with part of your retirement funds, now there's this extra fee you have to pay.

It's not a terrible amount, but it's kind of insulting. Every time you hear a politician talking about the rich paying their fair share, just think of the average guy wanting to pay off his mortgage from his IRA, and suddenly BIG GOV demands a bigger piece of that.
Posted by TorchtheFlyingTiger
1st coast
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 1/24/25 at 2:23 pm to
Good reason to have at least a portion of retirement in Roth and/or taxable brokerage so you can top off withdrawals in any given year without triggering IRMAA or higher tax bracket. IRMAA is a bitch because it is a cliff (unlike progressive tax brackets). If you make one $ over limit you trigger the full monthly increase.
This post was edited on 1/24/25 at 2:24 pm
Posted by KWL85
Member since Mar 2023
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Posted on 1/24/25 at 5:32 pm to
Medicare does not go up if you are still working (though income amount may come into play), My wife went on medicare this month and the premiums are the same for someone that is on medicare and not working. She does fall below the $22320 yearly threshhold which may have something to do with the premium amount.
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It does go up. We are paying an extra $350/month in Medicare premiums due to my income. We also are being taxed a good bit on her social security. She wanted to start taking hers in case of early death. I am holding out partially because of this.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
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Posted on 1/24/25 at 6:32 pm to
Take it now. I'm taking at 62.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
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Posted on 1/24/25 at 8:18 pm to
We are also taxed on 85% of my wife’s SS. We still come out ahead.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
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Posted on 1/24/25 at 8:19 pm to
Terrible advice. If he takes it now making$75k a year the likelihood is that he wont receive a dime from SS because he makes way over the threshold.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 1/24/25 at 8:21 pm to
quote:

It does go up. We are paying an extra $350/month in Medicare premiums due to my income. We also are being taxed a good bit on her social security. She wanted to start taking hers in case of early death. I am holding out partially because of this.


Then it appears that your MAGI is over the $210k threshold.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/25/25 at 11:00 am to
One thing to consider.

People here are talking about taking SS at 66 1/2. That is FRA if you were born in 1955 or sooner. If you were born after 1955 your FRA is 67.

Anyone born in 1955 is now 69 or 70 so 66 1/2 probably doesn't apply to anyone in this thread that hasn't taken SS yet.
Posted by TigerBR1111
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 1/25/25 at 6:09 pm to
I was born in ‘58. FRA is 66 and 8 months for me.
Posted by canyon
MM23
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 1/26/25 at 5:08 am to
Take it early. As early as you can.
Posted by Double Oh
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 1/26/25 at 3:28 pm to
quote:


Terrible advice. If he takes it now making$75k a year the likelihood is that he wont receive a dime from SS because he makes way over the threshold.



How much can you make at age 62 if you take SS? I know at 67 you can make whatever you want correct?
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 1/26/25 at 3:48 pm to
Correct about 67. The income limit to not affect your SS payment is $22320 for the year. Every $2 over that amount reduces your SS payment by $1.
Posted by Double Oh
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
23351 posts
Posted on 1/26/25 at 3:55 pm to
quote:


Correct about 67. The income limit to not affect your SS payment is $22320 for the year. Every $2 over that amount reduces your SS payment by $1.





Gotcha.

So i can only make $22,320 per year? Yea fuk that time to come up with a gameplan. Maybe put my wife down as owner. Lots of cash deals going forward.
Posted by Shaun176
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
2917 posts
Posted on 1/26/25 at 3:59 pm to
Question 1. How long do you intend to work. If you don't want to retire, wait.

Question 2: How long do you expect to live? If your parents and siblings died in their 60s or early 70s, if you have diabetes, or if you smoke, take it now and retire or cut back at work to spend time doing what you like.

Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135604 posts
Posted on 1/26/25 at 4:05 pm to
quote:

Taking Social Security early vs. later
The answer is counterintuitive.
If you need SS, put it off as long as you can.
If you don't need SS, take it early.

Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133623 posts
Posted on 1/26/25 at 6:22 pm to
quote:

If you need SS, put it off as long as you can.
If you don't need SS, take it early.

Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 1/26/25 at 6:53 pm to
Keep in mind that $22320 is MAGI. Modified adjusted gross income. But yeah, $22320 is a tough number to hit. We’re able to do it for my wife’s small bookkeeping business but it’s no bueno for most people.
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