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SVB failure isn't something that's just affecting a few thousand tech bros in SF

Posted on 3/11/23 at 6:47 pm
Posted by Street Hawk
Member since Nov 2014
3460 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 6:47 pm
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Hi, I’m Lindsey. A bit about me:
- Ohio mother of 4
- I employ a team of 15 as a start-up founder & CEO of Strongsuit
- drive a used Honda Odessey
- husband works in manufacturing
- The financial future of my company, team and family are at risk w/ the collapse of SVB

The collapse of SVB might look like a 1% problem that only impacts the coastal-tech-elite. Not true. This impacts small businesses made up of hard-working people making modest mortgage payments in the midwest. This impacts parents putting dinner on the table

LINK

This is just one example. This has the potential to become a broader contagion if the Fed doesn't step in over the weekend and figure this out by Monday's market open.

The All-in podcast was fire this week. Here they cover the 2nd and 3rd order effects of what would happen if SVB is allowed to fail fully and if depositors aren't made whole at the 43:58 mark - LINK
This post was edited on 3/11/23 at 6:58 pm
Posted by UltimaParadox
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2008
40852 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 6:57 pm to
You give us an example of a small tech company that's business is to make to-do lists for their clients to relieve their mental load.

This screams of tech bro business.

The SVB failure is pretty well covered. They were not smart
Posted by BHTiger
Charleston
Member since Dec 2017
5003 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 7:03 pm to
The govt will bail them out. Wash, rinse, repeat.

By govt I mean us,..middle class America
Posted by Street Hawk
Member since Nov 2014
3460 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 7:14 pm to
The last time we did this - remember TARP - the US taxpayers made $15B. It didn't cost us anything.
Posted by Auburn80
Backwater, TN
Member since Nov 2017
7503 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 7:16 pm to
Why does an Ohio mom have her entire operation tied up in a Silicon Valley Bank? Plenty of banks in Ohio.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61236 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 7:17 pm to
What does her company do? There are too many BS app tech companies out there. Not every single thing in life requires an app to manage it.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
38782 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 7:20 pm to
Why didn't she have money insured
Posted by BHTiger
Charleston
Member since Dec 2017
5003 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 7:37 pm to
You don't really believe that do you?
Posted by Street Hawk
Member since Nov 2014
3460 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 7:53 pm to
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You don't really believe that do you?

It's public information. Look it up. When TARP was wound down, the tax payers received $441B vs. $426B that was put in originally. The US treasury booked a $15B profit from the program. It's just facts. Has nothing to do with party or politics. Sometimes there is no choice but for the government to step in and act as a backstop for the greater good.
This post was edited on 3/12/23 at 12:03 pm
Posted by UltimaParadox
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2008
40852 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 7:56 pm to
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Why does an Ohio mom have her entire operation tied up in a Silicon Valley Bank? Plenty of banks in Ohio.


Guessing some VC out there is paying her bills. Can't imagine many outside of that region would help start up a company for to-do lists
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27898 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 8:03 pm to
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the tax payers received $441B vs. $426B that was put in originally. The US treasury booked a $15B profit from the program.

I'm not sure you understand Math, but $15B return from $426B spent, might not even match the cost of living from 2009-2014
Posted by TigerDeBaiter
Member since Dec 2010
10265 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 8:08 pm to
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FROM SURVIVING TO THRIVING

We provide a human-led, tech-enabled service to partner with you to anticipate, research, and clear your home and personal to-do lists and relieve your mental load. We take care of the research and the planning so you can get to the living.


Posted by TheWalrus
Member since Dec 2012
40513 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 8:10 pm to
I spent about ten minutes on their website and watched their intro video and I still have no idea.
Posted by TigerIron
Member since Feb 2021
3038 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 8:13 pm to
Being an entrepreneur and starting a startup is risky. The idea that we should bail out a bunch of startups by bailing out a bank that took on lots of risk to back startups is ridiculous.

High risk, high reward doesn't work when you socialize the risk.

Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71060 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 8:21 pm to
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The last time we did this - remember TARP - the US taxpayers made $15B. It didn't cost us anything.


The estimates are all over the map.

MIT calculated a net loss of half a trillion dollars. Forbes said $4 trillion, Rolling Stone said $6 trillion.
Posted by Big Jim Slade
Member since Oct 2016
4930 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 8:33 pm to
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Why does an Ohio mom have her entire operation tied up in a Silicon Valley Bank? Plenty of banks in Ohio.


It was probably vogue in the Silicon Valley tech circles. Plus the banks in Ohio likely don’t virtue signal enough for the Silicon Valley crowd so you probably got some industry cred using their hip, PC bank.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48915 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 8:54 pm to
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contagion

You got the script too huh
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48915 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 8:56 pm to
quote:

FROM SURVIVING TO THRIVING

We provide a human-led, tech-enabled service to partner with you to anticipate, research, and clear your home and personal to-do lists and relieve your mental load. We take care of the research and the planning so you can get to the living.


So they wanna run my life but don't undesprstabd banking
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5007 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 9:06 pm to
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MIT calculated a net loss of half a trillion dollars. Forbes said $4 trillion, Rolling Stone said $6 trillion.




What are you talking about? Losses to the economy or losses in TARP?
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48942 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 9:07 pm to
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contagion


Why do I keep seeing this word
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