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Seadrill Bankruptcy

Posted on 9/13/17 at 9:23 am
Posted by TunaTime
LA
Member since Aug 2012
770 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 9:23 am
As I'm sure everyone has seen, sdrl filed for ch 11 yesterday. Shareholders will get 2% (if it passes in court). I'm trying to decide whether to keep or sell my shares. Luckily i only have 317 shares at $5 a share. What should i do? And yes i know im a jackass for keeping them this long.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20018 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 10:22 am to
I did too
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 10:31 am to
Fair warning then, Transocean will most likely be the next major drilling company to go down.

I would not be holding any offshore drilling company or periphial right now, especially supply boats.
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
6585 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 1:04 pm to
Lost about $500 on this POS. Never sold because the transaction cost is more than the value of my shares lol.

Seriously, $500 is now worth about $5
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 1:37 pm to
quote:

Lost about $500 on this POS. Never sold because the transaction cost is more than the value of my shares lol.


Well I lost $2,000 on Bank of Greece, NBG, now known as NBGGY
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37706 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 1:50 pm to
quote:


Fair warning then, Transocean will most likely be the next major drilling company to go down.

I would not be holding any offshore drilling company or periphial right now, especially supply boats.



You think they go belly up or just keep tanking?
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
12758 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 2:04 pm to
quote:

Well I lost $2,000 on Bank of Greece, NBG, now known as NBGGY



i lost on 5k VNR. bought at $24, rode it up to $32, and never sold, hoping for a miracle.

edit- finally sold it at $0.60 just to offset gains.
Posted by PlanoPrivateer
Frisco, TX
Member since Jan 2004
2796 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 3:40 pm to
It is worth about $100. I'd just hold and forget about it. By the way I have a few shares myself.
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
80774 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 4:03 pm to
Explain to me why anyone wouldn't sell if they filed ch 11 and the shares still have a value?

With shareholders getting 2%, wouldn't that mean your 100 shares is essentially going to be 2 shares after they reemerge from ch 11?
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37706 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 5:06 pm to
quote:

Explain to me why anyone wouldn't sell if they filed ch 11 and the shares still have a value?


Depending on your platform it could cost some money to sell

That said you can wrote off on taxes or offset gains so who knows
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 7:18 pm to
quote:

You think they go belly up or just keep tanking?


Belly up and since they made the bad decision to relocate headquarters to Switzerland it is going to be ugly, think chapter 7 not chapter 11.

Thier only out is the banks are already in so deep they keep loaning money to keep the creditors from filing.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37706 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 8:10 pm to
They have enough credit to survive for awhile don't they?

Have a hard time seeing them be fine 12 months from now
This post was edited on 9/13/17 at 8:11 pm
Posted by crazycubes
Member since Jan 2016
5256 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 9:31 am to
For the drillers who can survive , this will mean less competition and an opportunity to purchase drilling equipment for pennies on the dollar
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37706 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 11:22 am to
quote:

For the drillers who can survive , this will mean less competition and an opportunity to purchase drilling equipment for pennies on the dollar




Problem is finding out what drillers those are

With shale + depressed oil prices, I can't imagine many have good long term futures
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37706 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 7:41 pm to
quote:


Thier only out is the banks are already in so deep they keep loaning money to keep the creditors from filing.


Still thinking Transocean goes bellyup?

Checked back in on this and looks like they've gone up about 10%
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
19598 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:14 pm to
The consolidation on the DW drilling market has yet to begin, when it does I think its going to be severe.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37706 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:42 pm to
quote:


The consolidation on the DW drilling market has yet to begin, when it does I think its going to be severe.


Question is when this would happen if it does
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 5:55 am to
quote:

Still thinking Transocean goes bellyup?

Checked back in on this and looks like they've gone up about 10%


They are in worse shape financially now than they were then and have concentrated on a business segment that is dead for the forseable future.

They may limp along with a dead cat bounce here or there but the writing is on the wall.

Short answer is yes.


Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37706 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 6:37 am to
What's your guess on a timeline?
Posted by tipup
Member since Sep 2005
1649 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 11:01 am to
Run offshore out of Fourchon and look at the drill ships that are just sitting there anchored. I would stay away from DW drilling companies.
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