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re: Petroleum Engineering starting salary out of LSU?

Posted on 6/5/12 at 1:10 pm to
Posted by reb13
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 6/5/12 at 1:10 pm to
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GPA is not the end all be all. It helps, but being persistent and having good interview skills is just as important. (yes, I know you need gpa to land the interview for the majors).


This. Being persistent usually allows you to get that interview to which you can then display your interview skills.
Posted by b-rab2
N. Louisiana
Member since Dec 2005
12812 posts
Posted on 6/5/12 at 3:08 pm to
Congrats on the offer! Cementing??
Posted by urinetrouble
Member since Oct 2007
20625 posts
Posted on 6/5/12 at 7:28 pm to
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This is what I've been wondering, whether or not it's mandatory to take the SE 1 & SE 2 or if taking just the civil test is still acceptable if you want to stamp structural dwgs.


Definitely not mandatory.

Posted by otowntiger
O-Town
Member since Jan 2004
16752 posts
Posted on 6/6/12 at 12:37 pm to
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I'm pretty sure the average was 70kish
Uggggh! What am I doing wrong?!?? My starting salary out of school was all of 18k, in 20 years it's only gone up to about that.
Posted by HeadyMurphey
Los Santos
Member since Jan 2008
17278 posts
Posted on 6/6/12 at 2:44 pm to
Apparently everything. 20 years and you have only gotten 18k in raises?
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
28162 posts
Posted on 6/6/12 at 3:01 pm to
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Uggggh! What am I doing wrong?!?? My starting salary out of school was all of 18k, in 20 years it's only gone up to about that


as PETE?
Posted by b-rab2
N. Louisiana
Member since Dec 2005
12812 posts
Posted on 6/6/12 at 6:34 pm to
yeah you def doing something long
Posted by TulaneUVA
Member since Jun 2005
26182 posts
Posted on 6/6/12 at 6:36 pm to
20 years to get from 18 to 70 Murphy.
Posted by chauncey1
Member since May 2010
294 posts
Posted on 6/7/12 at 12:06 am to
As per the "engineering expert because his sister got a job..."-
A PetE taking a job at a refinery is equivalent
to a ChemE taking a job on the upstream side of the industry.
A ChemE isn't qualified to do both... You just don't see PetE's take the refinery job because 1. Currently there is a greater demand for upstream engineers than downstream 2. There are more ChemE programs in the country than PetE's. 3. Upstream pays better and is more interesting.

Major companies are willing to take time and money and hire top engineers in other disciplines. Majors have different staffing needs than independents. Most independents are leaner. They typically hire PetEs because they are more job ready and expected to produce sooner. Because they can produce sooner and less training is required, a premium is paid for their specific "skill set"- (Really it's just a general idea of what's going on... 95% will be OJT).

Any engineer can cross train if they land the job and adequate training is provided. The company just has to spend
more time to train you. All a degree does is prove you have the ability to learn and gets your foot in the door.
This post was edited on 6/7/12 at 6:13 am
Posted by polizei11
Houston
Member since May 2009
1138 posts
Posted on 6/7/12 at 7:28 am to
I'd say there are tiers of jobs for PETE grads.

Tier 1: 3.5+ GPA, Hire on with a Major or Mid-Major, 80-110k

Tier 2: 3.0-3.5 GPA, Hire on with an Independent, 70-100k

Tier 3, <3.0 GPA, Hire on with a Service Company, 60-90k (to get to 90k you work your arse off; you'll get a day rate for being in the field to boost a pathetic actual salary)

Experience: 1 Year at a Major, 3 Internships with said Major
GPA: 3.6, 3.9 PETE
Current Salary: ~100k
Posted by chauncey1
Member since May 2010
294 posts
Posted on 6/7/12 at 9:02 am to
I wouldn't put a major or mid-major above an independent. Independents are on par. Typically independents have equal or better compensation. Independents give you more responsibility, but majors provide better formal training programs.
A lot of independents don't hire recent grads. They wait for a large company to train someone and then offer more money.

On a side note, you can still do very well at a service company.
Posted by polizei11
Houston
Member since May 2009
1138 posts
Posted on 6/7/12 at 9:52 am to
I agree with you. I was quoting more for a starting salary. The independents that I have seen that hire PETE grads for engineering positions seem to be in the range I quoted for the reason you stated. They know they are getting an untrained engineer and pay accordingly. There are always exceptions but I think the range I quoted are more the norm.

On a side note OP, if you do go the PETE route, I advise to take the FE exam when you can. Passing the FE leads to the PE exam. A PE license means big bucks these days.
Posted by b-rab2
N. Louisiana
Member since Dec 2005
12812 posts
Posted on 6/7/12 at 6:39 pm to
A PE also means that if you screw up, they can sue you for everything you have business and personal So I've been told...
Posted by urinetrouble
Member since Oct 2007
20625 posts
Posted on 6/7/12 at 8:19 pm to
There is money in being liable for something.
Posted by blowmeauburn
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2006
8045 posts
Posted on 6/7/12 at 9:04 pm to
My roommate a few years back graduate in PE and started out making 80k with a small company in Houston. He studied his arse off though and he still probably finished around a 3.0. We used to make fun of him for never going out with us but it looks like he got the last laugh.

For the record that was 4 years ago so not sure what the market is like now.
Posted by ChemE in the OP
The Flats
Member since Apr 2011
6382 posts
Posted on 6/8/12 at 10:58 pm to
Just to add my 2 cents to this thread...

ChemE is a harder major than PetE and offers a more diverse array of job opportunities if oil/gas prices go to shite. When I graduated I started upstream with a major and specialized in completions and well intervention. Starting salary is low 80s and you can get up to 130-140 including bonuses within 5-7 years.

As for ChemE vs PetE... PetE has a geology sublayer whereas ChemE has a kinetics/reactions/process sublayer. Much different than many folks would assume.

Good luck to those considering, it's no small undertaking and there are no guarantees.
This post was edited on 6/8/12 at 11:03 pm
Posted by guttata
prairieville
Member since Feb 2006
22628 posts
Posted on 6/9/12 at 6:09 am to
Just to add my 2 cents. EE is harder than all of them. Carry on.
Posted by ChemE in the OP
The Flats
Member since Apr 2011
6382 posts
Posted on 6/9/12 at 7:35 am to
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Just to add my 2 cents. EE is harder than all of them. Carry on.


Go fix my panel and stop whining...
Posted by guttata
prairieville
Member since Feb 2006
22628 posts
Posted on 6/9/12 at 2:48 pm to
If avg starting salary is $80k, I'd imagine alot of the senior level chem engineers who responded to this would love to know where those jobs are LINK
This post was edited on 6/9/12 at 2:50 pm
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
20484 posts
Posted on 6/9/12 at 3:51 pm to
Thanks for the explanation of ChemE vs. PetE. I was hoping you would respond since ChemE is what you do.
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