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re: Pay off student loan?

Posted on 12/29/24 at 8:54 am to
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 12/29/24 at 8:54 am to
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Lots of things you can do with that 2k per month.


Lots of things you can do with 110k cash.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 12/29/24 at 8:55 am to
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Everyone will tell you the math, but the reality is you should pay it off.



Why?
Posted by Sherlock Holmes II
Member since Jun 2024
122 posts
Posted on 12/29/24 at 10:09 am to
Mohela put me in Forbearance, the only way they will take me out is if I choose a new plan than the one I was in. The new plans all increase my payment by 3x or more.
Posted by lsu xman
Member since Oct 2006
16713 posts
Posted on 12/29/24 at 10:10 am to
loan $110K 3.5 5yrs:

$2001/mo.
Total payment $120,065
Total Interest $10,065

5yrs from now, where will the S&P be??

Just throwing some numbers out. It gets a lot more complicated than this.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37198 posts
Posted on 12/29/24 at 10:46 am to
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Everyone will tell you the math, but the reality is you should pay it off.


The reality is he shouldn’t pay it off. The emotion will tell you to pay it off
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
38922 posts
Posted on 12/29/24 at 12:09 pm to
I would probably just pay it off. Student loans are a pain in the butt. I got about 13k left on mine and was just paying the minimum which is like $250 a month waiting for sleepy Joe to erase them but probably will just lump sum pay it off sometime early this coming year
Posted by rpg37
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Sep 2008
53710 posts
Posted on 12/29/24 at 1:36 pm to
Student loan debt is tax deductible which means the effective rate is closer to 2%. I personally would not pay it off and would invest. Are you maxing out the Roth or other avenues? Math says you don't rush to pay off items under inflation rate. Yes, it would feel good. It is a good problem to have and neither answer is not still an improvmeent.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38521 posts
Posted on 12/29/24 at 1:47 pm to
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Why on earth would you pay off a 3.5% loan early?
That's usually my logic, but it's worth keeping in mind that student loan debt is non-dischargeable, so I'm not always against retiring it on a more aggressive schedule.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37198 posts
Posted on 12/29/24 at 2:13 pm to
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Student loan debt is tax deductible


You lose the entire deduction at $100k of MAGI. Entirely too low imo
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31726 posts
Posted on 12/29/24 at 4:21 pm to
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I have 110k saved to pay off my student loans and be done with it. I pay 2000$ a month. Interest rate is 3.5%. No other loans except mortgage. Should I do it?

I'd like to parse out this turn of phrase a bit.

Did you literally save $110k over time? If so, why? Why weren't you just putting more towards principle as you went?

In the alternative, is this $110k liquid something you came into all at once, e.g. from the sale of a house, inheritance, etc?

To be clear, I understand that the "how" has nothing to do with the math, but it has a significant amount to do with the psychology.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
40325 posts
Posted on 12/29/24 at 5:29 pm to
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That's usually my logic, but it's worth keeping in mind that student loan debt is non-dischargeable, so I'm not always against retiring it on a more aggressive schedule.


Sure, but when extremely low risk options like hysa pay more than 3.5%, he can always pay it off if needed whole generating more money than he is paying each month in interest. He controls his default risk.
Posted by RemouladeSawce
Uranus
Member since Sep 2008
17171 posts
Posted on 12/29/24 at 8:14 pm to
quote:

Pay it off.

Everyone will tell you the math, but the reality is you should pay it off.
If the math maths, then you follow the fricking math

The Ramsey cult and their uninformed absolutes are a blight
This post was edited on 12/29/24 at 8:16 pm
Posted by DaBeerz
Member since Sep 2004
18304 posts
Posted on 12/29/24 at 9:28 pm to
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Did you literally save $110k over time? If so, why? Why weren't you just putting more towards principle as you went? In the alternative, is this $110k liquid something you came into all at once, e.g. from the sale of a house, inheritance, etc? To be clear, I understand that the "how" has nothing to do with the math, but it has a significant amount to do with the psychology.


He probably voted for Biden and believed they would be forgiven

Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37198 posts
Posted on 12/29/24 at 9:36 pm to
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He probably voted for Biden and believed they would be forgiven


I didn’t vote for Biden but I sure as shite didn’t pay my loans during the freeze in case he did forgive them

Seems like a prudent financial decision
Posted by TigerDent
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2011
293 posts
Posted on 12/29/24 at 9:44 pm to
Didn’t vote for Biden. I had refinanced the loans in 2019, and have been paying on them the whole time. I have just put extra money aside since August.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31726 posts
Posted on 12/29/24 at 9:48 pm to
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Didn’t vote for Biden. I had refinanced the loans in 2019, and have been paying on them the whole time. I have just put extra money aside since August.

My man, if you legit saved $22k/month over the last five months, who the frick cares what you do with your loans? You’re going to be fine regardless
Posted by xBirdx
Member since Sep 2018
2352 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 12:16 am to
Serious question- what kind of work do you do?

$210k in student loans is a lot…. It being able to save $110k cash is nice….

Just curious…
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
38922 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 5:04 am to
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I didn’t vote for Biden but I sure as shite didn’t pay my loans during the freeze in case he did forgive them

Seems like a prudent financial decision
I don't know why people get so butthurt on here when someone says something like this. I'm completely against student loan forgiveness but I sure as shite was not going to pay extra if its going to be forgiven. I didn't make any payments while it was frozen then started back up as soon as it was required

Now that student loan forgiveness is not going to happen I'll probably just pay the whole thing off
This post was edited on 12/30/24 at 5:05 am
Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
Weatherford Tx
Member since Nov 2017
6962 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 8:24 am to
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I don't know why people get so butthurt on here when someone says something like this. I'm completely against student loan forgiveness but I sure as shite was not going to pay extra if its going to be forgiven. I didn't make any payments while it was frozen then started back up as soon as it was required



This is 100% my opinion also. My wife has $8,500 left on her student loans. I pay a whopping $250 a month on her loan which is 4X the minimum payment but I didn't want to bite the rest off until the tuition forgiveness was killed. If I'm going to have to pay everyone else's student loans off through taxation, why not be on the receiving end of the government's stupidity for once.

As for the OP, my personal finance prioritization is safety first and returns second. Unless the interest rate differentiation is ridiculous, I'll always choose to eliminate debt first. If I had the cash on hand to pay off my mortgage, I would do it and not blink. There's no guarantee that the investment will go up on any certain timeframe, but your debt will 100% remain regardless of what the market does.
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