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Orange Beach Condo Ownership

Posted on 10/9/19 at 7:13 pm
Posted by Popths
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
3968 posts
Posted on 10/9/19 at 7:13 pm
Has crossed my mind a few times. Have you ever owned one here? Input please.
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26580 posts
Posted on 10/9/19 at 7:29 pm to
I’m interested. From what I’ve heard it may work but what can kill you is the $1500 a month in HOA fees (from what I have heard).
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48978 posts
Posted on 10/9/19 at 7:35 pm to
Go to Mexico beach
Buy a destroyed lot/home
Build your own home
Profit
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64052 posts
Posted on 10/9/19 at 9:04 pm to
quote:

Go to Mexico beach
Buy a destroyed lot/home
Build your own home
Profit


I have looked into this. Zillow is all over it. Lots are a million bucks, more than what the property was worth before the hurricane. There are no deals in Mexico beach.

Posted by Popths
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
3968 posts
Posted on 10/9/19 at 9:16 pm to
HOA is under 500.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58152 posts
Posted on 10/9/19 at 9:59 pm to
There are no deals in Orange Beach these days either.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11484 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 8:33 am to
quote:

There are no deals in Orange Beach these days either.


Nope. Low interest rates have kept that place propped up nicely.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Alpha Silverfox
Member since Oct 2011
41633 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 9:03 am to
The key is to find some beachfront property in an commercialized, non-touristy area that is in decent proximity to stores. Buy it, build upon it, and rent it out. Market it as a "natural, untouched beach location".

Profit.
Posted by Peejack84
Lafayette
Member since Aug 2019
125 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 9:18 am to
Just wait for the next recession.
Posted by bubbz
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
22817 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 11:39 am to
The biggest issue with condo ownership is Dues and Special Assessments. You need to ask about special assessments when you’re looking.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20481 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 12:12 pm to
quote:

The biggest issue with condo ownership is Dues


This is false. Generally there is no Hurricane/ Flood insurance in a condo that's on the beach. Its paid for by the HOA dues. Plus HOA dues include things like Pest control, cable, landscaping, etc.

At the end of the day the HOA dues are mostly a wash from what you would otherwise pay.
Posted by Hermit Crab
Under the Sea
Member since Nov 2008
7168 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 12:36 pm to
Special assessments can be a killer. My aunt has a place in Destin that they are having to rip the balcony off and rebuild it because they didn’t properly seal the concrete and the rebar is starting to corrode.

Everyone has to pay something like $40k and they aren’t able to rent it out for 6 months because the balcony is closed, jackhammering all day, and balcony furniture is all out inside the unit.
This post was edited on 10/10/19 at 12:39 pm
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20481 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 12:54 pm to
quote:

Special assessments can be a killer. My aunt has a place in Destin that they are having to rip the balcony off and rebuild it because they didn’t properly seal the concrete and the rebar is starting to corrode.


I know someone here also and its over $50k for them.

Given that, its generally still a lot cheaper to do things in bulk. We have a new 5 ton AC unit put in a unit along with 30 other owners and it was under $3500 total and they used a crane to get the outside unit on a roof. They were knocking out 3-4/ day with the same crews.

People act like owning a personal home never has a "special assessment". Condos and HOA's try and plan for the future with savings and some do it very very well. Others' don't. No different then some homeowners save up and plan for expenses and other's have to take out loans.

At the end of the day if you own a place privately you'd be paying for your "special" assessment one way or the other.
Posted by jralspanky
Fargo - Home of NDSU Bison
Member since Apr 2009
1479 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 1:06 pm to
quote:

Destin that they are having to rip the balcony off and rebuild it because they didn’t properly seal the concrete and the rebar is starting to corrode.


Has nothing to do with sealing the concrete. The rebar wasn't placed correctly.............too close to edge
Posted by tigersfan1989
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2018
1265 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 1:16 pm to
What is the average cap. rate for these condos one should expect?
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20481 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 1:16 pm to
quote:

Has nothing to do with sealing the concrete. The rebar wasn't placed correctly.............too close to edge


That was the plan I was told, what do you do with the rebar too close to the edge? As far as the repair?
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20481 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 1:20 pm to
quote:

What is the average cap. rate for these condos one should expect?


This all depends on the particular unit, if you are financing, when you buy, and when you sell etc. As said retail market is high right now compared to rents.

But generally anything from 1.5-6.5% is common with something in the 2.5-3.5% being most normal.

The problem is that most aren't just looking for a return. They are looking for a combination of return and personal preferences.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64052 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 3:09 pm to
$2000/w rent

$8000/m

Spend a month a year there for 20 years =
$160,000

Buy the condo = $800,0000 + dues
Spend about a month there every year. Maybe you make money selling it in 20 years, maybe you lose your arse. No way to know.

That's how my simple mind thinks.
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 3:17 pm to
quote:

Spend a month a year there for 20 years =
$160,000


Whew. Imagine having to spend a month a year there for 20 years. Ugh. That's the single most compelling argument NOT to buy a condo. Go see the world, enjoy different places. OB is not some sort of world beauty spot. Yes, the beaches are nice w/white sand, but it's a big planet with many, many gorgeous locales.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64052 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 3:22 pm to
I agree. My family likes to mix it up. Destin, Charleston, Savannah, Asheville, Lake Oconee, Frankfurt, Unicoi cabin, New orleans, etc.
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