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Posted on 4/20/23 at 3:34 pm to
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
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Posted on 4/20/23 at 3:34 pm to
Grabbed some TSLA $170 May calls for real cheap. i grabbed some $4 May UVXY calls last week that look great today.
Posted by Jag_Warrior
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Posted on 4/20/23 at 4:17 pm to
You’ve got a decent enough amount of time value there. If you got them for less than $7 and the stock rebounds before theta decay really sets in, that could turn you a nice % gain. Do you have a $ or % profit target on them?
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
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Posted on 4/20/23 at 4:25 pm to
I got the May 5 $170 for 3.90 and the $175 for 2.78.

Mostly a lotto play but I expect it to be back over $180 within a week

This post was edited on 4/20/23 at 4:27 pm
Posted by Jag_Warrior
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Posted on 4/20/23 at 5:39 pm to
OK, you got the weeklys. I was looking at the monthly expiration.
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
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Posted on 4/21/23 at 10:59 am to
Just opened VALE $15 calls May 19 for .28
Posted by Jag_Warrior
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Posted on 4/22/23 at 9:04 am to
I don’t follow VALE. Is there an upcoming earnings event or was your purchase based on technicals?

With it being April expiration, I was expecting some fireworks yesterday. But the session went out like a wet squib. The VIX remains below 17 and SPX is still tightly range bound. I’ve been able to “safely” sell larger lots of SPX ICs every day. But because I’ve been expecting a pop one way or another out of this low vol environment, I’ve stayed with low deltas on the short contracts. And oddly, every earnings play (TSLA, BAC, DFS, MS, JPM and IBM) expired worthless this cycle. Don’t think that’s ever happened to me before. Strange times.
Posted by jerryc436
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Posted on 4/22/23 at 9:26 am to
I added to my VALE position when 1 CSP assingned at $15 yesterday. I have been doing CC's and CSP's on this stock and wanted to add so the premiums I have added makes up the difference of what I ended up paying. Also assigned 1 CC at $40 on FCX and I use the same strategy to add to this stock.
Posted by bayoubengals88
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Posted on 4/22/23 at 11:56 am to
Can anyone help with this situation?

I bought 100 shares of NYCB for 6.55 shortly after the banking crisis weekend, and then I sold a CC to collect some premium. I sold a $7 call with a 7/21 ex. for .64

Well, NYCB bought Signature Bank a week later and immediate shot up 35% and hasn't looked back. Stock is north of $9/share.

The call is now worth 2.10 and Vangaurd doesn't even have a roll function in its platform...
I'd rather not cover for $210 and then roll up for a cheaper premium. But is that the only option?
This post was edited on 4/22/23 at 11:58 am
Posted by bayoubengals88
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Posted on 4/22/23 at 11:58 am to
quote:


I added to my VALE position when 1 CSP assingned at $15 yesterday. I
What's the deal with VALE? I saw it pop up on a screener yesterday for high IV.
Posted by bayoubengals88
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Posted on 4/22/23 at 12:36 pm to
quote:

The call is now worth 2.10 and Vangaurd doesn't even have a roll function in its platform... I'd rather not cover for $210 and then roll up for a cheaper premium. But is that the only option?


It just came to me…
Cover the $210, sell the stock, sell a 30-45 DTE CSP…
Is this the best I can do to chip away at the gains I’ve missed out on?

Can probably get .55 for a 6/16 $9 CSP
This post was edited on 4/22/23 at 12:54 pm
Posted by thatguy777
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Posted on 4/22/23 at 9:05 pm to
I would probably just buy the call back and simultaneously choose the next month and sell the 9 but I have not looked at anything. General statement and prob shouldn’t have responded haha
Posted by Jag_Warrior
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Posted on 4/24/23 at 6:29 pm to
You’ve got it right, if he really wants to hold onto the stock. Afterall, a “roll” is really just closing out a position and opening a new one at the same time. Vanguard may not offer rolls on their platform (which is kinda weird and would probably make me move to a different platform), but like you said, he can do the exact same thing piecemeal.
Posted by Jag_Warrior
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Posted on 4/24/23 at 6:37 pm to
Is anybody playing any strategies on GOOG, MSFT, PEP, MCD, V, GE, GM or anything else for earnings tomorrow?
This post was edited on 4/24/23 at 6:38 pm
Posted by bayoubengals88
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Posted on 4/24/23 at 7:30 pm to
quote:

Vanguard may not offer rolls on their platform (which is kinda weird and would probably make me move to a different platform),
I'm considering moving my Roth to Schwab. Vangaurd sucks for anyone who isn't a target date investor.
Posted by bayoubengals88
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Posted on 4/24/23 at 7:35 pm to
quote:

Is anybody playing any strategies on GOOG, MSFT, PEP, MCD, V, GE, GM or anything else for earnings tomorrow?

What do you have in mind? I'm assuming that earnings isn't the place for any kind of credit spread, which is something that I'm just now getting a bit more comfortable with. Too directional?

With earnings is an iron condor too risky for the reward? Strangle, straddle could work if you're expecting big moves?
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
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Posted on 4/24/23 at 8:07 pm to
Question: Would a brokerage like Tasty Trade provide "chance of profitability" for a trade like this one?

I'm guessing it's north of 80% ??
I like this trade on paper. Giving yourself a lot of room to the downside...a breakeven price that's about 5% below market with just 25 days to go.

Is the premium too low though?
I read where you should collect at least a third of the width of the spread.

In this case, 1.13/5 = 22.6
Would you pass?

Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
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Posted on 4/24/23 at 8:22 pm to
I like Vanguard funds, but I’ve only dealt with them and Fidelity when I’ve worked for companies that had our 401Ks with them - and I’ve always rolled those over to either TDA or Schwab. The upside of moving to Schwab is you’ll soon have access to Think or Swim, once they complete the TDA transition. As you get more into trading options, I think you’ll really appreciate what that platform has to offer.
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
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Posted on 4/24/23 at 8:29 pm to
quote:

With earnings is an iron condor too risky for the reward? Strangle, straddle could work if you're expecting big moves?


A credit spread would be directional, but not so much risky… depending on where you set the delta. Because there’s unlimited risk on the call side of a strangle or straddle, I’d lean more toward the iron condor or iron butterfly if you want a neutral strategy. I personally don’t do iron butterflies, just because I don’t care to manage them if the move after earnings is outside the predicted range. But many/most would disagree with my risk aversion there, because they can be very profitable for the amount of risk put on.
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 4/24/23 at 8:35 pm to
quote:

Question: Would a brokerage like Tasty Trade provide "chance of profitability" for a trade like this one?


You can use this for free.

optionscalculator

There should be a "probability of positive return" somewhere.

The chart has a drop down menu you can look at four different things like profit/loss etc.
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
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Posted on 4/24/23 at 8:55 pm to
quote:

I like this trade on paper. Giving yourself a lot of room to the downside...a breakeven price that's about 5% below market with just 25 days to go.

Is the premium too low though? I read where you should collect at least a third of the width of the spread.

In this case, 1.13/5 = 22.6 Would you pass?


I’ll likely play AAPL, but I’d pass on the 5/19 contracts right now, mainly because you want remember that AAPL is due to report earnings on May 4 after hours. So there’s a good chance that IV will spike just before that event. And depending on what happens with earnings, there’s typically a severe drop in IV the day after (you’ll see people mention “IV crush”). So the better time to sell that, or any shorter dated setup would be during the IV runup and then look to close the day or so after the earnings event. Remember, we want IV to be relatively high when we sell/go short and relatively low when we buy/go long options or buy to close a position.

BTW, I would watch your short put on that setup though. Because the current expected range on the 5/19 expiration is +/- $10.186, that 160 short put is at roughly 31 delta (33.61% probability of being in the money) - so that’s quite high this soon before earnings.

And yeah, even though I haven’t used the TastyTrade platform, from what I’ve seen, they do as good or maybe an even better job than Think or Swim in calculating Probability of Profit (POP) and other factors related to option trading. After all, Tom Sosnoff created both platforms. If there are any kinks at all as Schwab integrates ToS, I’ll be transferring my account to Tasty.
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