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Posted on 4/26/19 at 5:41 pm to
Posted by Red Solo Cup
Memphis, TN
Member since Sep 2012
498 posts
Posted on 4/26/19 at 5:41 pm to
I would see how fast I could pay off my house.
Posted by dirtsandwich
AL
Member since May 2016
6347 posts
Posted on 4/27/19 at 4:03 am to
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Open a taxable brokerage account.

Yep.
Posted by Junky
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2005
9042 posts
Posted on 4/27/19 at 8:11 am to
I'm in your same situation,

dump the remaining in taxable brokerage, vtsax, and let it ride. In about 15 years you'll laugh. No penalty to remove early, no limits in amount added. Just be aware of taxes (not too hard).
Posted by fjlee90
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
8510 posts
Posted on 4/27/19 at 10:45 am to
Taxable brokerage account seems to be the consensus. Appreciate the advice folks.

Posted by LakeCharles
USA
Member since Oct 2016
5345 posts
Posted on 4/27/19 at 8:30 pm to
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Engineer.



What kind?
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24967 posts
Posted on 4/27/19 at 10:42 pm to
Taxable account is the answer. What you invest in the account will vary based on your broader portfolio. If you want tech exposure, then QQQ is a great fund. Do not do a 529 until you actually have a kid.
This post was edited on 4/28/19 at 11:37 am
Posted by RoyalWe
Prairieville, LA
Member since Mar 2018
4220 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 10:00 am to
quote:

If you want tech exposure, then QQQ is a great fund.
And if your risk tolerance allows, value cost average with TQQQ. I'm up 70% YTD.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24967 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 11:35 am to
TQQQ is a terrible recommendation for a buy and hold investor.
Posted by RoyalWe
Prairieville, LA
Member since Mar 2018
4220 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 12:00 pm to
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TQQQ is a terrible recommendation for a buy and hold investor.
I agree. Hence the 'value cost averaging'.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24967 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 12:15 pm to
How does this protect from time decay of leveraged ETFs?
Posted by RoyalWe
Prairieville, LA
Member since Mar 2018
4220 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 1:50 pm to
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How does this protect from time decay of leveraged ETFs?

I guess I should have expected this question, so I'll comment. Before I say why I'm not concerned about long-term buy and hold (even though this isn't what I do), here are a couple of interesting articles.

Reddit r/investing
The Long Term Behaviour of Leveraged ETFs

The thesis is that beta decay is less of an issue than reported, even over long periods, and that moving into and out of fluctuating funds relegates it to a non-issue. I'm not going for a precise multiple of an index’s performance, I'm going for higher volatility. I use that higher volatility to my advantage by value cost averaging.

To illustrate:

From October 1 2018 through April 18 2019:

+0.58% NDX
-10.61% TQQQ

(This is an example of where people will conclude that holding leveraged funds does not work.)

From the low on December 24 2018 through April 18 2019:

+30.35% NDX
+91.05% NDX performance multiplied by 3
+110.46% TQQQ

(Here is an example where TQQQ's performance greatly exceeded NDX's from the bottom)

When you buy weakness and sell strength (you have to define your own criteria here), performance improves further in most time frames.

From October 1 2018 through April 18 2019:

+0.58% NDX
-10.61% TQQQ
+15.91% One Value Cost Averaging Approach

Jason Kelly, the king of leveraged value cost averaging and source of the above.

edit: grammar & Jason Kelly reference
This post was edited on 4/28/19 at 5:37 pm
Posted by Yeti_Chaser
Member since Nov 2017
11342 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 5:26 pm to
I'm in your same situation except I'm only meeting the match on my 401k and I'm a couple years younger than you. I opened an account on vanguard and started investing in some mutual funds. Check out bogleheads.org theres some good advice that I've been using to put my paychecks to work. Assignments are nice. Take advantage of it
This post was edited on 4/28/19 at 5:28 pm
Posted by TorchtheFlyingTiger
1st coast
Member since Jan 2008
2890 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 5:54 pm to
Delete
This post was edited on 4/28/19 at 5:59 pm
Posted by fjlee90
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
8510 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 7:11 pm to
Graduated as a chem e.
Posted by Omada
Member since Jun 2015
714 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 8:03 pm to
quote:

time decay of leveraged ETFs

Not really a thing. Decay in leveraged products is overwhelmingly due to unfavorable volatility and movements. And that is the downside for the real upside of leveraged products: when leveraged products go on a strong positive trend, they provide returns in excess of the leverage used.

That said, I wouldn't recommend investing in leveraged products to anyone, especially not without a strong plan or strategy.
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