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re: Next Round of PPP Loans - Info Inside - Updated 1/8/21

Posted on 12/22/20 at 12:11 pm to
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73646 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 12:11 pm to
Can you apply now or need to wait for Trump to sign?

I have a few restaurant friends that didn't get anything rnd 1

Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20449 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 12:54 pm to
FWIW I'm seeing 25% not 30% loss now.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27097 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 1:37 pm to
Weird to say, but I'm glad we don't qualify for this round. The first round helped us immensely in April and May, but by June we were stumbling back up on our feet again. Q2 was down 16% compared to last year, but Q3 and (soon to be) Q4 are pretty damn good - all things considered.

I hope this helps the businesses that need it.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
16384 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 2:11 pm to
You have to wait for Trump to sign, then the SBA needs to put the app out; then you can apply. Right now, there is nothing to apply for
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73646 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 2:22 pm to
quote:

You have to wait for Trump to sign, then the SBA needs to put the app out; then you can apply. Right now, there is nothing to apply for




Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38785 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 2:24 pm to
good explanation of the process here

LINK
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35546 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 2:26 pm to
Can't apply quite yet. I'd guess not until after the first of the year. Damned holidays in the way.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35546 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 2:28 pm to
quote:

Weird to say, but I'm glad we don't qualify for this round. The first round helped us immensely in April and May, but by June we were stumbling back up on our feet again. Q2 was down 16% compared to last year, but Q3 and (soon to be) Q4 are pretty damn good - all things considered.

I hope this helps the businesses that need it.


We took a big hit the first two quarters. While we are certainly recovering another round (particularly with uncertainties regarding the new administration) will help a ton.
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17259 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 3:11 pm to
so when figuring up the 30% decrease in gross receipts , it should not include EIDL advance, the EIDL loan, or any other grants associated with CARES act (some medical companies got grants equal to about 2% annual gross receipts) or prior PPP money ???

If so we will have a 38% decrease in Q2 2020 vs Q2 2019....another round of PPP would be golden
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35546 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 3:12 pm to
Correct and it's been reduced to a 25% reduction.
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17259 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 3:18 pm to
quote:

Correct and it's been reduced to a 25% reduction


thanks
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
50249 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 9:55 pm to
quote:


Financially I'm fine, but I'll certainly be keeping an eye on the next round of PPP as the government has fricked me over multiple times
Posted by Slagathor
Makin' jokes about your teeny tiny
Member since Jul 2007
37811 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 8:55 am to
I assume you dont have to count the PPP money when adding up your revenue for the quarter you are comparing to for 2019
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35546 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 12:22 pm to
Correct.
Posted by Penn
Jax Beach
Member since Jan 2008
23448 posts
Posted on 12/28/20 at 1:07 pm to
Bump?
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35546 posts
Posted on 12/28/20 at 4:05 pm to
It's been signed.

2.5X average monthly payroll plus state and local withholdings X 2.5. 2.5 X monthly health insurance paid by the company. 2.5 X monthly state unemployment taxes.

EIDL Grant is now a true grant with no payback required.

You can elect an 8 week or 24 week window as a look back period for loan forgiveness.
Posted by Spock
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Mar 2010
1176 posts
Posted on 12/28/20 at 4:25 pm to
The only thing stopping me from applying again is the "loan necessity" requirement. Specifically, SBA guidance has stated:

"all borrowers should review carefully the required certification that "[c]urrent economic uncertainty makes this loan request necessary to support the ongoing operations of the Applicant."

While that was definitely true for the first round, we are now pretty close to operating back at a normal revenue level from before COVID. I would be hesitant to accept another large loan for the same amount even though we would technically qualify since our revenues were down around 31% in the second quarter.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35546 posts
Posted on 12/28/20 at 4:40 pm to
Given the uncertainty of what's going to happen with possible restrictions from the new administration I don't have a problem with the certification. I do understand your concern.
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17259 posts
Posted on 12/28/20 at 5:39 pm to
“Current economic uncertainty “ is all I need, who knows where this shite is going
Posted by LSUlove
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2003
518 posts
Posted on 12/28/20 at 6:32 pm to
For the new PPP, just to confirm, the 25% reduction is still gross sales?
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