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re: Nebius - NBIS - AI Infrastructure Company

Posted on 7/16/26 at 12:16 pm to
Posted by LB84
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Posted on 7/16/26 at 12:16 pm to
weird to have multiple pieces of good news and just get blasted
Posted by LSUcam7
FL
Member since Sep 2016
9111 posts
Posted on 7/16/26 at 12:23 pm to
Momentum giveth and momentum taketh.

Nebius could come out today and say they’ve cured cancer not sure it would bounce. Caught up in the AI fear.
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
34606 posts
Posted on 7/16/26 at 12:24 pm to
There’s blood all over my portfolio
Posted by LChama
Member since May 2020
4730 posts
Posted on 7/16/26 at 12:49 pm to
I would bet the whole thing has a ton to do with margin accounts being at an all time high. Striking when u can do the most damage.
Posted by SETH6180
Texas by way of lower Atchafalaya
Member since Feb 2020
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Posted on 7/16/26 at 1:05 pm to
Buckle up
Posted by jefforize
Member since Feb 2008
46565 posts
Posted on 7/16/26 at 1:32 pm to
this does all reek of leverage unwind
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
30559 posts
Posted on 7/16/26 at 2:02 pm to
I think it might hit 145-150 for the bottom and then rebound sharply upwards. I will likely add significantly to my position if it does hit in that range. Right now its too volatile due to the insiders selling off their shares.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
26590 posts
Posted on 7/16/26 at 4:39 pm to
New Chinese model better than Anthropic seems to be the biggest issue right now.
Posted by SETH6180
Texas by way of lower Atchafalaya
Member since Feb 2020
1523 posts
Posted on 7/16/26 at 4:42 pm to
What does that mean long term? Assuming the Chinese model isn’t going anywhere where does that leave everyone else?
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
26590 posts
Posted on 7/16/26 at 4:52 pm to
quote:

Assuming the Chinese model isn’t going anywhere where does that leave everyone else?
It leaves our stocks too expensive. I have no answer.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
26590 posts
Posted on 7/16/26 at 4:52 pm to
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
23227 posts
Posted on 7/16/26 at 5:21 pm to
quote:

New Chinese model better than Anthropic seems to be the biggest issue right now.

Wouldn't better and cheaper AI models - Chinese or otherwise - ultimately increase the demand for compute, not decrease it?
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
26590 posts
Posted on 7/16/26 at 5:32 pm to
Yes, but the other angle is…why is Mag 7 spending trillions and is it necessary?
What happens if it stops?
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
26590 posts
Posted on 7/16/26 at 5:32 pm to
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
26590 posts
Posted on 7/16/26 at 5:41 pm to
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Wouldn't better and cheaper AI models - Chinese or otherwise - ultimately increase the demand for compute, not decrease it?
He addresses this here:
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Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
26590 posts
Posted on 7/16/26 at 5:48 pm to
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As open models keep closing the intelligence gap with closed ones, more of that decision tips toward self hosting.

This is the mechanism that actually drives Nebius's revenue.

Nebius does not need to win the model race but rather needs open models to keep getting good enough that enterprises choose to rent compute instead of buying API tokens from a closed provider and every release like Kimi K3 makes that case stronger.


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Posted by LSUcam7
FL
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 7/16/26 at 5:59 pm to
BINGO
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
26590 posts
Posted on 7/16/26 at 8:50 pm to
The way this reads makes me think NBIS could be a top 10 largest company in 5-10 years.
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Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
26590 posts
Posted on 7/16/26 at 9:05 pm to
If he’s right, this is key.
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AI Capex will still continue because:
1. If American Labs stop training capex, then Chinese models will also stop improving. AI progress will have stopped. American companies have never given up just because Chinese are trying to copy them.
2. Chinese model still consume alot of compute/GPUs for inference. Inference demand will outstrip training demand anyways.
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