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Mortgage Recommendations/Questions on Beach Property - Orange Beach/Perdido Key

Posted on 9/16/21 at 3:11 pm
Posted by yankfand
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Dec 2010
333 posts
Posted on 9/16/21 at 3:11 pm
Looking into purchasing a condo or townhome in Orange Beach or Perdido Key over the next few months. The property would be bought for rental income. I have some questions:

-Who do you recommend to get mortgage rate quotes from? Does it matter if they are local or Louisiana-based?
-Is there such thing as a "best time to buy" in such a hot market? I know most rental income is made during the summer months.
-Is there anything you wish you knew or asked before you purchased/financed your condo or townhome at the beach?

Thanks Guys!
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 9/16/21 at 3:12 pm to
Buy a one bed on the beach for the highest returns
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
5258 posts
Posted on 9/16/21 at 3:18 pm to
I would call Kelly Lankford with
Homespire Mortgage.
She just began her own brokerage, and she is wonderful to work with.
Posted by Drizzt
Cimmeria
Member since Aug 2013
12869 posts
Posted on 9/16/21 at 7:55 pm to
Ask about pending assessments. My realtor there tells me there are a lot of $10-15,000 assessments coming for repairs from Sally last year and things like elevators and exterior coverings. You buy it and you could be paying that next week. I’m waiting for those to come through hoping it leads to more inventory on the market and pushes some prices down. Prices have been insane there the last year with cheap interest rates and covid escapees.
Posted by 1609tiger
Member since Feb 2011
3226 posts
Posted on 9/16/21 at 8:35 pm to
At today’s prices don’t plan on much rental income if you’re borrowing money for the condo. Rental company fees, condo association fees, special assessments, insurance, replacement of condo items, ongoing maintenance issues etc etc.
Posted by Ramblin Wreck
Member since Aug 2011
3898 posts
Posted on 9/16/21 at 9:09 pm to
I own two condos and used The Barr Group when I purchased one of them and am refinancing my other one with The Barr Group. They are in Gulf Shores. A lot of people on this board hate beach condos as investments, but mine have done extremely well this year and do well every year. I have a Phoenix V three bedroom that has done $70K so far this year and a Phoenix I one bedroom that has done $48K. Yes you periodically have assessments with condos, but you also periodically would spend money to maintain the structure of a rental house too. I would be very cautious of buying a condo that brags they don't have assessments. That just means the building is crap. Salt water and ocean air is brutal on anything metal and coatings.
This post was edited on 9/16/21 at 9:18 pm
Posted by Sput
Member since Mar 2020
7916 posts
Posted on 9/16/21 at 9:26 pm to
Very few condos are available for conventional loans these days so have 20 to 25% to put down and expect a slightly higher rate.

And as someone else said fine the Barr Group a shot or Bank of England. They know most of the complexes well and can tell you which ones require special financing.
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
18183 posts
Posted on 9/17/21 at 3:21 am to
Good info by all
Posted by misterc
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2014
700 posts
Posted on 9/17/21 at 6:29 am to
quote:

At today’s prices don’t plan on much rental income if you’re borrowing money for the condo. Rental company fees, condo association fees, special assessments, insurance, replacement of condo items, ongoing maintenance issues etc etc.



This....I just put a deposit down on a new 4 bed, 4 bath on beach in Perdido. I'm paying cash and probably would not net more than 70k per year if i rented it . I bought it more for asset diversification and having an address in Florida, I could get much better returns doing something else but I'm already doing a lot of that....
Posted by Joehat
New Orleans West
Member since Jun 2011
962 posts
Posted on 9/17/21 at 7:58 am to
I just bought at the … and did a pledge with my investment account through Morgan Stanley. I had no idea it was an option until they told me About it (your 20% down payment is a pledge that is invested and grows)
This post was edited on 2/27/22 at 12:56 pm
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
13623 posts
Posted on 9/17/21 at 8:10 am to
quote:

At today’s prices don’t plan on much rental income if you’re borrowing money for the condo. Rental company fees, condo association fees, special assessments, insurance, replacement of condo items, ongoing maintenance issues etc etc.


Rental prices are about to start going up at a pretty rapid pace. People have proven they will pay it.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
31094 posts
Posted on 9/17/21 at 9:35 am to
"Start" going up? They've been insane all summer.
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
13623 posts
Posted on 9/17/21 at 9:53 am to
quote:

"Start" going up? They've been insane all summer.


True. Continue going up. Looking at next years prices they are about 10-15% higher than last year for places I have stayed.
Posted by Drizzt
Cimmeria
Member since Aug 2013
12869 posts
Posted on 9/18/21 at 9:07 am to
Can you explain this more or give a link? Sounds like you invested your down payment.
Posted by Joehat
New Orleans West
Member since Jun 2011
962 posts
Posted on 9/18/21 at 1:45 pm to
Google Morgan Stanley pledged asset feature in lieu of cash down payment for mortgage. That’s exactly what it is; my investment account shows a mortgage with a separate “pledged asset” account that I cannot touch which is my down payment. They are invested funds.
Posted by yankfand
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Dec 2010
333 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 11:32 am to
quote:

Google Morgan Stanley pledged asset feature in lieu of cash down payment for mortgage. That’s exactly what it is; my investment account shows a mortgage with a separate “pledged asset” account that I cannot touch which is my down payment. They are invested funds.


VERY interesting to read about! Seems as if you might have to have an account currently with Morgan Stanley that has investments totaling 20% of the total loan amount. Worth looking into more!
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20438 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 7:28 am to
My recommendations are you need to look around now and figure out what you want OP, then figure out how much it’s worth to you and what you will spend.

In a hot real estate market things move fast and you don’t want your emotions to make the decisions, “we need to increase our bid or we won’t get this and it’s perfect for us!!!”.

You want to be able to walk away or bid on a good deal.
Posted by tigersfan1989
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2018
1265 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 7:56 am to
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This post was edited on 9/25/21 at 5:15 pm
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20438 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 8:05 am to
I would talk to both a local to you and local beach lender. Most of the time it won’t matter who you use. But I have heard of some out of state lenders having restrictions, one lady told me her local to her bank wouldn’t allow a condo purchase as she didn’t own the ground under her. I tried to tell her that was idiotic but she stuck with it. I doubt you have that issue in Louisiana just saying.
Posted by hawkeye007
Member since Feb 2010
5851 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 11:19 am to
you can actually buy the property as a second home( if you dont already own one). Second homes require a min of 10% down not 20-25% like investment property loans. Rates are fixed just like a first mortgage. with good credit the 30yr second home rate is in the mid 3's. i handle alot of these types of loans, the only catch is making sure the condo assoc is approved for conventional financing. Most of them are. If you want a rate quote edhawk75@gmail.com
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