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re: Mortgage rates surge over 7% as tariffs hit bond market

Posted on 4/14/25 at 5:12 pm to
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 4/14/25 at 5:12 pm to
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They are an export economy

relying heavily on imported raw materials.
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 4/14/25 at 5:51 pm to
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Peter Schiff has been on point about this.


No he hasnt

And the 30yr isnt over 7%
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 4/14/25 at 7:54 pm to
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And the 30yr isnt over 7%


This is when SDV uses his own wholesale rates instead of, you know, the actual rates people are getting when they apply for a mortgage.

Mind you, this is the same guy that accuses the government of making up numbers.
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 4/14/25 at 8:12 pm to
It’s sad, to be honest, and I’m not saying that to be mean or coy.

There are genuinely smart people who know their shite, but contort things to fit their perception of Trump. SDV is one of those people.
Posted by slackster
Houston
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Posted on 4/14/25 at 8:33 pm to
Oh I know SDV is at least of above average intelligence - you have to be to be wrong so often.
Posted by KWL85
Member since Mar 2023
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Posted on 4/15/25 at 8:58 am to
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If they topple the US economic hegemony, where do they sell their shite?


That’s the rub on this entire situation. Nobody in the world can afford for the US to stop buying. If anyone “wins” an economic war with the US, they and everyone else still lose. It’s not good for anyone when the bank fails.
____________

Lose-Lose. No good outcome from this.
Posted by SDVTiger
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 4/15/25 at 9:00 am to
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This is when SDV uses his own wholesale rates instead of, you know, the actual rates people are getting when they apply for a mortgage.



This makes zero sense as always with your dumbarse

Holy cow

This post was edited on 4/15/25 at 9:19 am
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 4/15/25 at 3:06 pm to
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That kind of rate volatility isn't typical.
I think Bissent is hoping for a drop in rates and a stronger USD. So the antithetical moves this past week were "interesting."

Though China has been a slow net seller of Treasuries over years, and there is not ready evidence of a rapid recent “dump," I'm suspicious Chinese divestment had a role.

Regardless, IMO the bond/USD instability was/is more worrisome than the stock market, especially with the Fed sitting on its hands as something like $9T in debt (IIRC) gets rolled over this year.
Posted by slackster
Houston
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Posted on 4/15/25 at 9:17 pm to
You don’t all the time. You quote rates that actual people simply cannot get. You’re always at least 50 bps below what anyone here can ever get quoted
Posted by RollTide4Ever
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Posted on 4/16/25 at 6:19 am to
Yet
Posted by SDVTiger
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 4/16/25 at 7:03 am to
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You don’t all the time. You quote rates that actual people simply cannot get. You’re always at least 50 bps below what anyone here can ever get quoted


And I explain why and how you can get the rate im "quoting" yet you are to dumb to listen and then end up get a worse rate

UWM is the #1 lender by volume and they are wholesale. Everything you said was wrong like always

quote:

On Wednesday, April 16, 2025, the current average interest rate for a 30-year fixed mortgage is 6.86%, 


This is with 1.75-2% comp built in for banks. I realize you dont understand what any of that means
This post was edited on 4/16/25 at 7:08 am
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91386 posts
Posted on 4/16/25 at 8:04 am to
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And I explain why and how you can get the rate im "quoting" yet you are to dumb to listen and then end up get a worse rate UWM is the #1 lender by volume and they are wholesale. Everything you said was wrong like always


Why don’t you explain it one more time and I’ll bookmark it so I can be better.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
94321 posts
Posted on 4/16/25 at 8:06 am to
You dont even own a home nor will you be buying anytime soon

So you can figure it out by reading the previous threads where it was explained

Posted by Buddy the Tiger
Member since Nov 2018
148 posts
Posted on 4/16/25 at 9:11 am to
I am actually interested in hearing this. I am working with Hancock Whitney. What do you recommend?
This post was edited on 4/16/25 at 9:15 am
Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2008
51807 posts
Posted on 4/16/25 at 9:29 am to
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UWM is the #1 lender by volume and they are wholesale. Everything you said was wrong like always


Is SDVTiger a UWM "independent broker" that takes money under the table and sends all business to UWM, regardless of best interest of the customer

That is a widely known practice
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
94321 posts
Posted on 4/16/25 at 9:43 am to
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Is SDVTiger a UWM "independent broker" that takes money under the table and sends all business to UWM, regardless of best interest of the customer


The Ultimate Moron
Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2008
51807 posts
Posted on 4/16/25 at 9:48 am to
I guess we know the answer now
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
94321 posts
Posted on 4/16/25 at 10:41 am to
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I guess we know the answer now


Yes that you are clearly a moron like slackster
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91386 posts
Posted on 4/16/25 at 11:52 am to
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am actually interested in hearing this. I am working with Hancock Whitney. What do you recommend?


What rate are you getting with them at the moment?

ETA - just curious.
This post was edited on 4/16/25 at 11:53 am
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41583 posts
Posted on 4/16/25 at 12:04 pm to
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surged 13 basis points


Off topic, but why do business people use the term “basis points” instead of just saying the percents?

It went from 6.97% to 7.10%. Why the need to use basis points?
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