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re: Looking for suggestions- $100k for 18 months investment

Posted on 1/21/22 at 2:00 pm to
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
25893 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 2:00 pm to
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Actually, so called "Jumbo" CD's will pay you around 0.5 to 0.7 rates. Minimum is usually around 100k. The rates I mentioned are for 18 months. Easy to find on the interwebs.



Would these have early withdrawal penalties? Not sure it is worth it to make $500 over 18 months.
Posted by Bearcat90
The Land
Member since Nov 2021
2955 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 2:16 pm to
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Would these have early withdrawal penalties? Not sure it is worth it to make $500 over 18 months.


I believe they do, yes.

Honestly, if I had 100k on hand I'd find a few houses to flip. I don't see that bubble bursting anytime with so few new houses being built and population continuing to rise.

You might want to look in to treasury bills also.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 2:43 pm to
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Stable value fund can get you 1-2% yield.


I’ve seen you mention this a few times - give us a ticker for this investment.
Posted by Fat Bastard
alter hunter
Member since Mar 2009
91036 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 3:36 pm to
quote:

I’ve seen you mention this a few times - give us a ticker for this investment.




Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
20066 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 3:40 pm to
Take the Rams and the points
Posted by TigerDeBaiter
Member since Dec 2010
10727 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 4:23 pm to
Bitcoin?

Honestly, probably not bad
Posted by Turf Taint
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2021
6010 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 6:13 pm to
Do not risk money that you need for money that you do not need. If I am you, I am seeking to preserve value (inflation risk) moreso than grow value in 18-months, particularly as I assume 18-months means you NEED it then.

Good luck!
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4292 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 10:52 pm to
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I will have about $100k to invest for about 18 months. Looking for something with a relatively low risk and the best return possible (at this risk level).


Look at some of the bonus offers from Citi, Wells, Discover, Marcus, Schwab, etc. With $100k spilt between at least a couple of them, you should be able to get a total of $1500 or so in bonuses, plus whatever interest you gain. Some require you to keep the money with them for 12 months from date of account opening. Others are 90 days. Just read the terms and conditions.

Since you sound like you have a hard timeline, I wouldn’t get involved in anything that’s not defined short term.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
20066 posts
Posted on 1/24/22 at 11:06 am to
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Take the Rams and the points


Did you double your investment?
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
15388 posts
Posted on 1/24/22 at 8:46 pm to
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I don't see that bubble bursting anytime



Isn’t that what makes a bubble a bubble instead of the new best way to grow money long term?
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
28247 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 5:30 am to
What the minimum you would need in 18 months? Would you be ok with 80k? 60k?

We’re in a higher inflation environment so just sticking in low yielding “safe” savings rate is actually returning negative value. I’d consider spreading across a few equities that should do well with rising rates: energy, durable goods, google/msft/ Amazon.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
20066 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 5:34 am to
Take the Rams in the Super Bowl
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
44411 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 6:48 am to
VWINX. This is what I use instead of the money market account.
Posted by OldRebYeller
Member since Jan 2017
364 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 10:52 am to
You could stake stablecoins on Crypto.com.

12% annual returns. Only real risk is that Crypto.com goes down (which with them buying the naming rights to the Staples Center for 10 years... they'll be fine)
Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2008
52523 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 11:03 am to
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You could stake stablecoins on Crypto.com.

12% annual returns. Only real risk is that Crypto.com goes down (which with them buying the naming rights to the Staples Center for 10 years... they'll be fine)


He said low risk...
Posted by Niner
Member since Apr 2019
2033 posts
Posted on 2/18/22 at 10:48 am to
My goodness there are some hot takes in this thread.

OP - that's a pretty difficult "ask". Everyone defines risk differently and their own personal risk tolerance, again, varies greatly. As you can see from some of these responses, there actually people out there that think Bitcoin and Amazon stock are "relatively low risk". I shouldn't have to explain how absurd that is.

If you need to use the money in 18 months, don't take any risk and just go with a basic FDIC insured High-Yield Savings account. Regardless of what anyone here says, no one knows what the markets will do in any given 18-month time period.

If you don't actually need to use the money in 18 months and are willing to take some risk, then you need to re-assess what your goal is and diversify the funds in a conservative - or 100% Bonds - investment strategy. Inflation-Protected Bonds could be a good safe-ish bet but, I will repeat, nothing is guaranteed and Bonds could lose money in the next 18 months (especially given current interest rate and inflationary pressures).

Other considerations could maybe be I-Bonds or CDs? Again, your goal with this money is important and that ultimately dictates how much risk you should take with the cash as much as your personal risk preference.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
24608 posts
Posted on 2/18/22 at 11:24 am to
Put 20,000 in ibonds assuming you're married.
Posted by Razorbacking
Member since Aug 2013
89 posts
Posted on 2/18/22 at 11:55 am to
If you need liquidity and protection of principal, equities are completely off the table.

I’d probably start with Muni’s. Something high grade with a high coupon to keep duration at a minimum.
Posted by gpburdell
ATL
Member since Jun 2015
1596 posts
Posted on 2/18/22 at 12:03 pm to
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Put 20,000 in ibonds assuming you're married.


Husband & wife (or even a friend) could put 40k into I-bonds between the two of them in same year and be able to redeem all of it in one year.

To do this, they would buy an I-bond 10k gift for each other. To not violate the annual limit, the key is to not deliver the gift till the following calendar year. I-bond gifts will sit in a 'gift box' until delivered and won't count against any limit.

The 1 year I-bond lock up starts when it is purchased (not when delivered in the case of a gift).

You could even front load more I-bond gifts if you want, but you couldn't deliver each additional 10k gift till another calendar year.

Be aware, when you buy an I-bond as a gift it is irrevocable and there is no way to get a refund or change ownership back to yourself. All you have control of is when the gift is delivered.
Posted by Tomatocantender
Boot
Member since Jun 2021
5597 posts
Posted on 2/18/22 at 12:06 pm to
$100k / $18 = 5500 shares of F.

Ford is spinning off their EV division, so you get a growth stock and a Democrat loved bluechip all in one.
This post was edited on 2/18/22 at 12:08 pm
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