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re: Is there going to be another retraction in oil prices?

Posted on 3/19/16 at 2:53 am to
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/19/16 at 2:53 am to
Agre with all of the above except for


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3. Iran is still working on getting their production up to pre-sanction levels


I feel fairly confident in stating that as Iran's production comes back into the daylight we will see Iraq's "record" production come back down.

Draw your own conclusions.
This post was edited on 3/19/16 at 2:54 am
Posted by LSU Delirium
Member since Aug 2013
445 posts
Posted on 3/19/16 at 3:32 am to
"BP Maddog breaks even in the $20's. I know that, I'm sure that's the same with thunderhorse and Atlantis. Those are some amazing assets."

Both those projects were commissioned at that price, but I don't believe that is the break even anymore, and both were before the memorandum...most of the new GoM "mega" projects are well above $45 break even. As others have said, its the LLOG's that take cookie cutter production platforms and are super efficient drilling/completing that can get down into the $30's.

Back on topic, yes I think there will be another dip into the $30's.
This post was edited on 3/19/16 at 3:33 am
Posted by Omada
Member since Jun 2015
695 posts
Posted on 3/19/16 at 9:33 am to
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I feel fairly confident in stating that as Iran's production comes back into the daylight we will see Iraq's "record" production come back down.
Respectfully, I disagree. Although it is possible that some of their production is due to Iranian oil, I think the facts point elsewhere.

Iraq had auctioned off many fields in 2009-2013 to outside oil companies.* Since production projects typically take months or years to get online, this could explain why Iraqi oil production has increased since that time. Iraq, like many other OPEC countries, is dependent on oil for government revenues, and so production may have been increased to keep the budget stable once oil prices started to fall. Also, that budget has to include money to fight a war with ISIS, pushing production higher. And, like Saudi Arabia did, Iraq probably tried to lock down as many customers as possible before the Iranian sanctions were lifted (because as much as OPEC is a cartel, every member puts itself before the others).

It's also worth noting that the sanctions on Iran were not global but were mainly imposed by the US and the EU. Iran was still able to produce and sell oil, just not to the major developed countries mentioned, which hurt their revenues and caused a production decline since those customers were inaccessible. On the other hand, relations between Iraq and Iran have warmed since the end of the Saddam Hussein regime, so perhaps some of the oil Iraq sold came from Iran. This wouldn't fully explain Iraq's production increasing from 2.5 million bpd at the start of 2012 to 4.5 million bpd today, however.

*Coincidentally, Exxon and Occidental are the only US companies with contracts in Iraq. In fact, China and India buy 25% and 20% of Iraq's oil production, respectively, while the US buys 15%.. So much for the ridiculous "America went to war in Iraq for oil" argument that has been floating around for more than a decade.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
73681 posts
Posted on 3/19/16 at 12:33 pm to
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So much for the ridiculous "America went to war in Iraq for oil" argument that has been floating around for more than a decade.


only libtards pushed that false narrative who know nothing about the O&G industry. Now it can be argued the first gulf war had an underlying oil factor. But not for us. for the other saudi customers even though we were one as well. That being our two faced so called saudi allies had us protect their sorry asses and at the same time a by product was protecting their oil exports when saddam invaded kuwait and then fired scuds into saudi arabia and was planning on invading them next possibly.

not sure what 15% of their oil comes out to as a % of our imported oil now but not long ago we only imported 5.5% of our "imports" from iraq.

Back then our top 5 importers were Canada, Mexico, Venezuela, Saudi Arabia and Nigeria.
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
19666 posts
Posted on 4/6/16 at 1:34 pm to
Where do yall see this thing going with the upcoming OPEC meeting? Assuming that a freeze is agreed upon. I am getting pretty itchy on the trigger.
Posted by TigerDeBaiter
Member since Dec 2010
10275 posts
Posted on 4/6/16 at 1:38 pm to
A freeze at all time high production (or close to) doesn't seem that benificial IMO. But who knows...
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
19666 posts
Posted on 4/6/16 at 1:41 pm to
I have been holding off waiting for another steep drop however as more time passes I am loosing optimism. Hopefully the freeze will cause another tail spin because the growing surplus sure hasnt phased prices.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
19226 posts
Posted on 4/6/16 at 1:43 pm to
quote:

I have been holding off waiting for another steep drop however as more time passes I am loosing optimism. Hopefully the freeze will cause another tail spin because the growing surplus sure hasnt phased prices.

I'd say oil is likely to see 20s again. Based on EVERY opinion I've heard/read this week.
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
19666 posts
Posted on 4/8/16 at 12:55 pm to
I have seen this stated a couple of times on here but that is the only place. Everything I am and have been seeing say staying stable to rising through the rest of the year.

I am waiting until the upcoming OPEC meeting to make moves. The most I can see them doing is agreeing on a freeze which still keeps he market over supplied. If that doesnt cause a drop I dont see anything else doing it.
Posted by crazycubes
Member since Jan 2016
5256 posts
Posted on 4/9/16 at 10:20 pm to
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I can believe they break even at $30. They are one of the most if not the most efficient E&P in deep water GOM


It helped that LLOG - Who Dat came online right when oil was hitting record highs.

If your platform is paid off, then that is a big load off the company shoulders.
Posted by Porker Face
Eden Isle
Member since Feb 2012
15415 posts
Posted on 4/10/16 at 7:24 pm to
Yes
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54753 posts
Posted on 4/10/16 at 9:07 pm to
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Bankruptcies could help reign in more capex from some of the shale drillers that caused this glut.


Companies going into and during bankruptcy have continued pumping if it's economic...there has been a slowdown domestically but at the end of the day who knows....the OPEC Russia deal won't happen because of the Iranian condition (a calculated failure). I think you'd be a fool to place any bets based on oil prices right now - too many variables and the volatility indicates a lot of wild guessing.
Posted by crazycubes
Member since Jan 2016
5256 posts
Posted on 4/10/16 at 9:37 pm to
I've been studying the oil markets for a while now. After doing much indepth research , I think that there is a 50% chance the price of oil falls in the coming months.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54753 posts
Posted on 4/10/16 at 9:43 pm to
quote:


I've been studying the oil markets for a while now. After doing much indepth research , I think that there is a 50% chance the price of oil falls in the coming months.


I've been studying oil markets most of my professional life and I think there is a 50% chance the price of oil goes up in the coming months.

This post was edited on 4/10/16 at 9:45 pm
Posted by crazycubes
Member since Jan 2016
5256 posts
Posted on 4/10/16 at 9:50 pm to
This post was edited on 4/10/16 at 9:51 pm
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