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Investing in gold

Posted on 10/4/16 at 6:12 pm
Posted by papasmurf1269
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Posted on 10/4/16 at 6:12 pm
I may be in the market to invest around $25,000 soon, and I need to know from somebody smarter than me if gold is something that will appreciate rather than depreciate? And if so, where would one go about finding $25,000 worth of gold? Is it a good investment ?
Posted by iAmBatman
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Posted on 10/4/16 at 6:28 pm to
To be completely honest, if someone knew which way the price of gold would go, why would they tell you?
Posted by papasmurf1269
Hells Pass
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20884 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 6:39 pm to
I don't know shite about shite but I know the price of gold fluctuates but I would guess it's probably a pretty good investment. Money is always paper but gold is always gold
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
18887 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 6:42 pm to
Historically it's not a good investment. I actually think it even loses to inflation if you go back hundreds of years.
You could probably do better trading it, in which case you'd buy something like GLD or the leveraged etfs that track it (this requires knowledge and probably luck).
If not as a trade, many people use it as a hedge against a possible bear market, but who knows when that'll happen.

Also, as a "rule of thumb," metals shouldn't comprise more than about 2% of your portfolio. So if you've got the $25k for gold, have fun...but there are far better ways to invest that kind of money long term.
A consistent dividend paying stock will likely destroy gold over 20-30 years.
This post was edited on 10/4/16 at 6:44 pm
Posted by papasmurf1269
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Posted on 10/4/16 at 6:47 pm to
Food for thought. Thank you
Posted by JLivermore
Wendover
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Posted on 10/4/16 at 6:58 pm to
All of this.
Posted by marchballer
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Posted on 10/4/16 at 10:26 pm to
Gold is a good investment during market downturns. Last two downturns have seen Gold double in prices. However when market conditions are good, gold is not a sure thing. Definitely wouldn't invest all 25k in Gold.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 10/4/16 at 10:36 pm to
Why would they not telling? Would they be afraid he would buy up all the gold leaving none for them?
Posted by soccerfüt
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Member since May 2013
65533 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 10:59 pm to
If you want a tangible asset you can physically possess, consider rare third-party graded US collector coins. NOT the current US Mint Gold Coins.

Make sure it's all pre-1933 dates.

Here's what one looks like-

Posted by boatless2
Member since Mar 2015
612 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 11:17 pm to
Bit coins. 25000 dollars in bit coins. But wait till after the election when they dump from 600 to 300 and then buy a bunch. Cash in a year later.
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 10/5/16 at 5:13 am to
quote:

I need to know from somebody smarter than me if gold is something that will appreciate rather than depreciate?
When you find him, let me know. I'll buy him a Racing Form and take him to the Fair Grounds with me.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72509 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 12:54 pm to
quote:

but I would guess it's probably a pretty good investment.


not necessarily.

you can invest in:

gold mining stocks

gold ETF's

physical gold

gold futures contracts
This post was edited on 10/5/16 at 12:55 pm
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 12:55 pm to
Yea I'm in a good mining stock, EGO, been struggling though.
Posted by Mud_Till_May
Member since Aug 2014
9685 posts
Posted on 10/6/16 at 12:22 am to
I've been looking at the value of gold the past couple of days because they said the value was dropping on Yahoo. I've wondered about investing in gold myself and I went on lie and found out that Gold has only been valued at about 400 dollars an ounce for the last 30 years. The price of gold though skyrocketed to 12-14,000 dollars. If you had purchased 25,000 dollars it would be with a lot 78,000 dollars today.

That's the reason you see all of these gold mining shows on tv, the price of gold is way out of wack. IMO it will continue to drop the stronger the dollar gets and If Trump wins and we get anywhere near 3-4 percent of GDP growth then people will be selling Gold to get more liquid assets that they can invest.
This post was edited on 10/6/16 at 1:00 pm
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72509 posts
Posted on 10/6/16 at 11:21 am to
quote:

Yea I'm in a good mining stock, EGO, been struggling though.




I've got a GOLD ETF but use it as nothing more than a hedge.
Posted by Omada
Member since Jun 2015
695 posts
Posted on 10/6/16 at 12:36 pm to
quote:

The price of gold though skyrocketed to 12-14,000 dollars. If you had purchased 25,000 dollars worth of gold in 1987 it would be valued at 25,000,000 today.

You might want to take a 0 off of the gold prices you listed. And if you had bought gold in 1987, you would have bought at around $400 an oz. It's currently at $1250, so your $25k increased to $78k, not $25 million.
Posted by Mud_Till_May
Member since Aug 2014
9685 posts
Posted on 10/6/16 at 1:00 pm to
Yes your right. I completely did my math wrong. Thanks.
Posted by goodgrin
Atlanta, GA
Member since Nov 2003
5880 posts
Posted on 10/6/16 at 5:09 pm to
quote:

you can invest in: gold mining stocks gold ETF's physical gold gold futures contracts


Gold mining stocks will be big winners moving forward as the price of gold/silver rises in the coming years. They have been some of the worst performers since 2011. They have been the best performing sector this year. I would stay away from GLD and SLV.
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