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re: Inheritance forthcoming for a person with nothing

Posted on 12/15/17 at 3:20 pm to
Posted by Lou
Modesto, CA
Member since Aug 2005
8609 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 3:20 pm to
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Tell him he can have $1k a month
Something along these lines is what I was thinking. Initially I would have him put it in s simple savings or money market account, and pay himself $1000 a month. While this is not a good place for the money to stay permanently, it's a good place for someone with ZERO money skills, until he is better educated on how to invest the money. As for any detailed advice, I would need more information about this fella. How old is he, is he married, have children, what is his current income, does he currently own or rent, how much is it, what is his current automobile, where does he live, where does he want to live, and what are his goals. Fill in those blanks and some more concrete advice can be provided.

Also, make sure he picks up the check in person, or has it wired to his bank, don't rely on UPS to deliver it > LINK
Posted by OakdaleTiger21
Member since Apr 2014
144 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 3:32 pm to
Buy a used car, trailer, and put the rest on Bitcoin!
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
23290 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 5:52 pm to
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Where would he park the 250K to generate $2,000 a month? That's $24,000 a year, so almost a 10% annual return.


Well that was just an example and probably not a great one. But even if he had to touch some principle every now and then it would last him 10 years just on principle alone, so it would likely be 30 years invested 80/20 stocks/ bonds in the very very least. I'd take those odds for the guy in that situation.
Posted by RocketTiger
Member since Mar 2014
1220 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 6:22 pm to
Invest it all in cryptocurrency!
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4292 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 9:17 pm to
Everyone is offering advice (which is fine), but I don't believe we've heard how old this person is or whether he has a family in the picture.

Money advice to a single guy in his 20's is going to be different than what would be given to a 30 something with a wife and three kids.
Posted by MSUmtowndawg
Jackson, MS
Member since Sep 2010
1486 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 10:14 pm to
Thread hijack:

FIL passed and wife will be splitting 300k(bank accounts and life insurance) with sister. What do I need to do as far as taxes/income related reporting? I have not had a chance to call my accountant and do not have a lawyer.

31yo with 2 kids under 3 if that matters.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40529 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 10:24 pm to
What I would have said. This money isn't anything "life changing" unless he uses it ito improve his situation. As you said, if he can pursue an education to increase his income that's the best strategy.
This post was edited on 12/15/17 at 10:26 pm
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
36097 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 10:24 pm to
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FIL passed and wife will be splitting 300k(bank accounts and life insurance) with sister. What do I need to do as far as taxes/income related reporting? I have not had a chance to call my accountant and do not have a lawyer.

31yo with 2 kids under 3 if that matters.



Tax free for you. The estate should take care of everything. Once the estate is settled you'll get whatever is left and won't owe anything on it.

Looks like it's not any property, stocks, or anything like that, but if there is basis is FMV at date of death in most cases. If those are inherited then I would talk to a CPA.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40529 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 10:25 pm to
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I have not had a chance to call my accountant and do not have a lawyer.


Call your accountant and/or have a lawyer.
Posted by MSUmtowndawg
Jackson, MS
Member since Sep 2010
1486 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 10:35 pm to
Well I feel awkward and rude planning for this money while still recovering from the shock. It’s just a larger sum and am worried about the proper way to handle it.

As the wife and sister are more focused on planning service, obit, and details I am worried about how we properly take it as far and income/taxes are concerned
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 6:07 am to
If it is life insurance and cash there are no taxes due. Life insurance is tax free and cash will be taxed annually on any interest earned in a given year.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
23290 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 7:31 am to
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how we properly take it as far and income/taxes are concerned


The only taxes owed on that sum will be what your FIL owed taxes on himself, the money transferring to you should be tax free. There is a $5.5 mil exclusion, so anything under $5.5 mil per person (a couple is $11 mil) is tax free.

So the estate will have to be cleared of any debts, then it will be transferred to you.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
78738 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 7:52 am to
Where does he live? He could buy a decent house on the MS coast very easily, plus a reliable used car. Tell him to put 6-12 months of expenses in the bank, about $100k into a retirement fund, and give himself a $20k or so allowance for frivolous spending like truck nutz. That last part is like cheat day on a diet so he doesn't feel deprived.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
23290 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 8:22 am to
Honestly, the absolute best bet would be to tell him to take some of it and blow it. He's likely to do that anyway, say $30k. Buy a truck, go on a cruise, go to biloxi for a long weekend.

Then talk him into giving the rest to a financial advisor with monthly draws. And to never touch the principle.

The problem with someone like him buying a house, is he has to pay taxes and everything else. That's not difficult for most people, but the fact is tax foreclosures happen. I think it'd be best to limit his responsibilities until he is more responsible as much as possible.

While a trailer goes down in value, if you buy a used one its not that much. You can buy a used trailer in the country on a couple acres for $40k fairly easily. In 10 years, its likely that trailer is worth basically the same amount as the land has increased in value while the trailer has lost 50% or so.
Posted by reggierayreb
Member since Nov 2012
18785 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 8:33 am to
Buy a Honda Accord and drive the MFer for the next 20 years, then trade it in for another.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 11:45 am to
What Monty said. Find someone who will manage it as a trust that he can't tap, I don't know the legalities of how that is set up but it isn't uncommon.

It might generate a thousand a month or so (that's 4% of 300k). It isn't like he can just retire immediately but for someone who is "working poor" it's a big help.
Posted by 1609tiger
Member since Feb 2011
3684 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 3:12 pm to
Find a fee only financial advisor. No brokers or insurance guys.
Posted by Reubaltaich
A nation under duress
Member since Jun 2006
5335 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 4:37 pm to
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Everyone is offering advice (which is fine), but I don't believe we've heard how old this person is or whether he has a family in the picture.

Money advice to a single guy in his 20's is going to be different than what would be given to a 30 something with a wife and three kids.



Yep. Very important to know. $300K is a good chunk of money but not enough to last the rest of this persons life.

Just to echo what most everyone else has stated and to make some general assumptions:

Take a nice little vacation. Do a few things he has always wanted to do.

Get a good USED vehicle, around $20-25K. New vehicles are for OTers only.

6-12 month 'emergency' fund.

Start looking for a few acres and get a good quality trailer-house or buy a 'fixer-upper' in a good neighborhood.

Get some good health insurance if he doesn't have any.

According to the OP, the guy is dirt poor so apparently he has little or few job skills. Don't waste his time AND money on a useless four year college degree.
Find a good reputable vo-tech training school, ie auto/diesel mechanic, welder, electrician...Make sure its a field that is in demand though.

Start socking away money for retirement. Roth IRAs, bonds, mutual funds, 401k...

Congrats to your friends windfall. Tell him to spend it wisely.
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 6:01 pm to
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Get a good USED vehicle, around $20-25K. New vehicles are for OTers only.

? Plenty of new vehicles at $25k or slightly below that will last a decade. Not fat SUVs or loaded trucks, but it’s silly to say “no new” if that’s the pricing point.
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