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How much of take home pay is reasonable to put towards mortgage?
Posted on 7/2/23 at 7:09 pm
Posted on 7/2/23 at 7:09 pm
Wife and I both taking new, higher paying jobs and will be looking to upsize our house.
Our current mortgage is about 1/8th of our current take home pay. Our new jobs will be a significant pay bump but also figuring this mortgage will be as well.
I’ve seen the 28% rule for salary, but I’m trying to be more granular and focus on what we actually bring home.
Thanks in advance.
Our current mortgage is about 1/8th of our current take home pay. Our new jobs will be a significant pay bump but also figuring this mortgage will be as well.
I’ve seen the 28% rule for salary, but I’m trying to be more granular and focus on what we actually bring home.
Thanks in advance.
Posted on 7/2/23 at 7:13 pm to CajunDoc
I think percentages are a poor way of measuring what’s right for an individual situation. Percentages work for general guidance.
What matters most is free cash flow after mortgage, taxes, insurance, and utilities. Find a number you are comfortable with for all your other expenses in life…
What matters most is free cash flow after mortgage, taxes, insurance, and utilities. Find a number you are comfortable with for all your other expenses in life…
Posted on 7/2/23 at 7:27 pm to CajunDoc
Try doing a reverse budget and leave 10% or so for BS consumption you’ll (mainly your wife) do that you won’t think of.
Posted on 7/2/23 at 7:50 pm to CajunDoc
I think white coat investor says not to go over 3 times your salary (I assume he means total not take home).
Posted on 7/2/23 at 8:00 pm to GeauxTigers123
No more than 25% of Whatever you take home. Also that should include taxes and insurance
Posted on 7/2/23 at 8:46 pm to CajunDoc
That doesn’t really work for all cases
If you make 200k a year, you can manage more then 20%
If you make 50k a year, 20% is too much
If you make 200k a year, you can manage more then 20%
If you make 50k a year, 20% is too much
Posted on 7/2/23 at 10:06 pm to VermilionTiger
1k is not to much if your making 50k take home. That would leave 3,100 for the month.
Posted on 7/2/23 at 10:10 pm to GeauxTigers123
quote:
white coat investor
Ideally a mortgage no more than 2x gross salary
Posted on 7/2/23 at 10:12 pm to GEAUXT
You are correct. I went back and read it and he said ideally 2x but that some followers are having to go beyond that in high cost of living places.
Posted on 7/2/23 at 10:21 pm to GEAUXT
I will also add that with a quick post review looks like the OP just finished residency.
My advice...
Do NOT upsize your house
Get off TD and go to the white coat investor forum
Don't piss away money on a big house.
My wife and I (both doctors) have a mortgage that is 1/3 our gross and the freedom you have without being saddled with debt is priceless. Particularly as a new attending...
My advice...
Do NOT upsize your house
Get off TD and go to the white coat investor forum
Don't piss away money on a big house.
My wife and I (both doctors) have a mortgage that is 1/3 our gross and the freedom you have without being saddled with debt is priceless. Particularly as a new attending...
Posted on 7/3/23 at 6:32 am to CajunDoc
It just all depends, do you have car notes? Do you have kids in private schools?
We have no car notes and a kid in daycare. We save 30% pretax in Roths and brokerage, and still have around 32% take home going to mortgage and it’s fine.
We have no car notes and a kid in daycare. We save 30% pretax in Roths and brokerage, and still have around 32% take home going to mortgage and it’s fine.
Posted on 7/3/23 at 9:38 am to CajunDoc
as little as possible. There is no rule. It all depends on where you need to spend your money.
You can afford a lot of house if you want to stay home and eat at home all the time. If you want to eat out all the time and travel tons, you wont be able to afford as much house. Same issue with cars.
You can afford a lot of house if you want to stay home and eat at home all the time. If you want to eat out all the time and travel tons, you wont be able to afford as much house. Same issue with cars.
Posted on 7/3/23 at 1:24 pm to notsince98
"you can have anything, but you can't have everything"
Posted on 7/3/23 at 2:02 pm to GEAUXT
You mean your monthly note is 33% of take home or your total house is worth 1/3 of y’all’s take home salary?
This post was edited on 7/3/23 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 7/3/23 at 6:31 pm to TigerMan327
Our mortgage is 1/3 of our gross annual income
Eta: 5% of our net monthy income
Eta: 5% of our net monthy income
This post was edited on 7/3/23 at 6:33 pm
Posted on 7/3/23 at 6:33 pm to GEAUXT
Sounds like a nice place if y’all are both doctors.
Posted on 7/3/23 at 7:09 pm to notsince98
quote:
You can afford a lot of house if you want to stay home and eat at home all the time.
I definitely spend a lot of time at my house. I did when I lived in a little, shitty house and I do now that I live in a giant, not-so-shitty house.
Hell, my house has almost everything I need.
You're absolutely right, though. If you eat out and travel a lot, you should probably be in a small apartment.
Posted on 7/4/23 at 1:13 pm to GEAUXT
quote:still paying for school tho? owe money on a practice? Lots of things to come into play here for a 2 MD fam.
Our mortgage is 1/3 of our gross annual income
Eta: 5% of our net monthy income
Posted on 7/4/23 at 1:20 pm to CajunDoc
Really depends on situation.
My wife and I are in our mid/late 30s. Our current home’s total price (when purchased in Nov 2021) was right at our combined gross income. Total monthly payments are about 17% of monthly net income after 401k contributions and tax withholdings. We can easily manage payments and save a bit for upgrades and repairs while maxing our 401ks and putting away some cash in a 529 plan for our daughter. It’s an older house with “old house” issues (so there is always that risk of a major repair), but it’s far more house than what we’ll ever grow out of and we’ll stay so long as the neighborhood remains safe. And I can live with a house that has older style fixtures in a couple of rooms. We could have afforded a more expensive home but I am glad we didn’t go that route (although almost nothing else was for sale at the time anyways).
Our previous house when we lived in Memphis was sold for an amount roughly equal to 3x our annual gross income. Our mortgage was closer to 35% of our total net after 401k contributions. It was also an older house that needed some repairs, but we got lucky that it appreciated significantly while we owned it and nothing major happened to it. That note was still difficult to handle for us but we made it work, especially since we both drove a couple of older, unfashionable but reliable domestic cars without notes. And we also didn’t have state income tax there. Those numbers are possible if you don’t have kids, but absolutely not recommended unless you are certain your income will grow quickly or if you otherwise play excellent defense against the consumption lifestyle. Looking back on that, I am very surprised we made it work and still put away a few bucks. We ate a lot or cheap food and rarely went out. I might have preferred to buy a cheaper flat and spent some more money traveling in those days.
If you want an overly simplistic rule of thumb - I would stick to 1.5x gross as a general rule for total mortgage, but there is a huge asterisk by that because everyone’s situation is different. And not every US city is equally safe/risky when it comes to real estate downturns either. And not every home buyer has to worry about kids coming into the picture and changing everything or may already have high debt service obligations for things like student loans.
My wife and I are in our mid/late 30s. Our current home’s total price (when purchased in Nov 2021) was right at our combined gross income. Total monthly payments are about 17% of monthly net income after 401k contributions and tax withholdings. We can easily manage payments and save a bit for upgrades and repairs while maxing our 401ks and putting away some cash in a 529 plan for our daughter. It’s an older house with “old house” issues (so there is always that risk of a major repair), but it’s far more house than what we’ll ever grow out of and we’ll stay so long as the neighborhood remains safe. And I can live with a house that has older style fixtures in a couple of rooms. We could have afforded a more expensive home but I am glad we didn’t go that route (although almost nothing else was for sale at the time anyways).
Our previous house when we lived in Memphis was sold for an amount roughly equal to 3x our annual gross income. Our mortgage was closer to 35% of our total net after 401k contributions. It was also an older house that needed some repairs, but we got lucky that it appreciated significantly while we owned it and nothing major happened to it. That note was still difficult to handle for us but we made it work, especially since we both drove a couple of older, unfashionable but reliable domestic cars without notes. And we also didn’t have state income tax there. Those numbers are possible if you don’t have kids, but absolutely not recommended unless you are certain your income will grow quickly or if you otherwise play excellent defense against the consumption lifestyle. Looking back on that, I am very surprised we made it work and still put away a few bucks. We ate a lot or cheap food and rarely went out. I might have preferred to buy a cheaper flat and spent some more money traveling in those days.
If you want an overly simplistic rule of thumb - I would stick to 1.5x gross as a general rule for total mortgage, but there is a huge asterisk by that because everyone’s situation is different. And not every US city is equally safe/risky when it comes to real estate downturns either. And not every home buyer has to worry about kids coming into the picture and changing everything or may already have high debt service obligations for things like student loans.
This post was edited on 7/4/23 at 1:45 pm
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