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Posted on 4/9/25 at 9:35 am to MeatBaby
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We all know that if this were happening under democratic leadership the same people telling us how good this is for us would have the opposite opinion.
Bipartisan politics has ruined us. We can no longer see past "red team good, blue team bad."
Exactly 
Posted on 4/9/25 at 9:38 am to SM1010
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Trade deficits are a natural part of trade.
It will never be equal but many trade deficits are due to practices putting American businesses at a disadvantage. If it is purely a natural deficit, the only likely action is talking to them about making a deal to buy more American products if possible, via incentives.
Trump has also made it very clear he is willing to use the USA military to increase revenue. Some of those trade deficit countries could probably use a little paid protection.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 9:39 am to notsince98
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Trump has also made it very clear he is willing to use the USA military to increase revenue. Some of those trade deficit countries could probably use a little paid protection.
frick that.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 9:41 am to MeatBaby
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We all know that if this were happening under democratic leadership the same people telling us how good this is for us would have the opposite opinion.
Maybe. Maybe not. Depends on why they are doing it. Biden raised tariffs on China in 2024 and I don't remember many have come aparts about it. Not saying it is the exact same scenario, but their purpose was the same.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 9:41 am to JohnnyKilroy
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frick that.
Why not? We are owed a lot of $ for the protection we have provided much of the rest of the world. Nobody complained when we were doing it for free but now that Trump wants them to pay for it, it is bad?
We can have a presence in other countries without being involved in conflict. That a huge part of peace through strength.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 9:46 am to MeatBaby
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This whole thing is maddening because it was 100% avoidable.
This. You’d be hard pressed to find many people that wouldn’t be on board with bringing manufacturing back to the United States and making sure America isn’t being taken advantage of when it comes to tariffs.
The method of which they are going about it is the issue. It’s reckless
Why not sit with CEO’s of the largest US companies. Tell them you are going to cut taxes and “negotiate” with them to make sure savings are used for US investment for manufacturing, apprenticeships. Give tax breaks to buy American goods.
This post was edited on 4/9/25 at 9:49 am
Posted on 4/9/25 at 9:47 am to Sterling Archer
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The method of which they are going about it is the issue. It’s reckless
Not many have seemed to have an answer, so I'll ask here. What other methods are available to get the other countries to eliminate their current trade policies?
Posted on 4/9/25 at 9:48 am to MeatBaby
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We all know that if this were happening under democratic leadership the same people telling us how good this is for us would have the opposite opinion.
Bipartisan politics has ruined us. We can no longer see past "red team good, blue team bad."
This whole thing is maddening because it was 100% avoidable.
Absolutely, tribalism is slowly destroying this country.
Present this scenario to either party in a vacuum removing any political affiliation and 99.99% of people in this country would renounce this whole situation.
At least some big names are calling it out now Like Ackman, Musk, Rand, Rogan etc. Maybe that will open some people's eyes.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 9:53 am to bigjoe1
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layoffs.
950 auto workers in IN. and Mi. {they make auto parts} have been laid off because Stellinis is slowing auto production in Mexio.
While your point is valid, this is not a good example. Stellantis current issues are unrelated to tariffs and a direct result of their mismanagement of the Mopar brands since they purchased them.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 9:54 am to Keys Open Doors
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However, the resolution currently advocated by Trump and co will add to the deficit.
Doing what we have always done has also added to the deficit.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 10:11 am to notsince98
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We can have a presence in other countries without being involved in conflict. That a huge part of peace through strength.
We had presence in other/developing countries via aid programs that were recently cut under the guise of wasteful spending and fraud. We absolutely do not under any circumstance need military presence in countries where it doesn’t already exist. Didn’t Trump campaign on cuts to military spending and withdrawing troops from conflict areas…or “America First” downsized global presence? But we should put troops in potential conflict areas in exchange for trade??
Posted on 4/9/25 at 10:18 am to Street Hawk
I think this will leave a black eye for some time, but the dust will settle and we will prosper. It does seem a bit excessive and unnecessary though, and I feel that the trade balance with China will never be permantly “fair” because Americans crave cheap Chinese junk.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 10:56 am to MeatBaby
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5% confident. We all know that if this were happening under democratic leadership the same people telling us how good this is for us would have the opposite opinion. Bipartisan politics has ruined us. We can no longer see past "red team good, blue team bad." This whole thing is maddening because it was 100% avoidable.
Truest response here. If President Kamala Harris was tanking the stock market by starting a trade war and restraining free trade, no one here would be singing the virtues of protectionism or bringing back manufacturing jobs or new trade deals. People here would be calling for an armed insurrection.
This post was edited on 4/9/25 at 10:57 am
Posted on 4/9/25 at 11:05 am to Sterling Archer
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Why not sit with CEO’s of the largest US companies.
Or, hear me out, talk with the owners of small and medium sized businesses. frick those big companies. They're the ones that helped us get in this mess in the first place.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 11:11 am to BottomlandBrew
Agreed, as the small and mediums will bear the brunt of this. I believe you made a post outlining your business and you have limited choices on where to source certain materials.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 11:20 am to DarthRebel
quote:Give the choice of the two evils, I am happier with adding to the deficit and not going broke, versus adding to the deficit and not making shite and burying my money in mason jars.
Doing what we have always done has also added to the deficit.
This post was edited on 4/9/25 at 11:22 am
Posted on 4/9/25 at 11:27 am to Street Hawk
This world is going to go bankrupt so fast that the mark of the beast, chips inserted in you to buy and sell, will happen real soon
Posted on 4/9/25 at 11:31 am to tigerfoot
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I am happier with adding to the deficit and not going broke
OK, how much have you lost so far? Real money, what are you out?
Currently for me, I loss more real money on eggs than the stock market.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 11:32 am to BamaCoaster
Looks like more prefer slow suicide that the bitter pill.
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