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re: Here’s What a $2 Million Retirement Looks Like in America

Posted on 8/30/22 at 6:43 pm to
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
19008 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 6:43 pm to
I'll read your link. I will look to spend as much principal and interest income. Paydown is taxed less.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
40332 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 7:12 pm to
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Ok. You don't save or invest, but spend as little as possible. That's your plan not mine.


I plan to spend more money in retirement than I spend now. Most people don't, but I plan to.

I don't need anywhere close to my normal income to achieve that.
This post was edited on 8/30/22 at 7:13 pm
Posted by SerenityNow
Chicago
Member since Feb 2008
2418 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 7:12 pm to
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I am out at 53 baws. 10 years for me. Looking forward to it.


Same here. On year 20 and I'm ready to be done.
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
19008 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 7:19 pm to
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I don't need

There is never a disagreement with the need. It's what I want. But on the flip side, I really don't know how much money I will need when I retire. I cannot predict the future economy.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53121 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 7:21 pm to
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I am out at 53 baws. 10 years for me. Looking forward to it.

Health insurance will be the kicker for me to be able to retire early
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
40332 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 7:37 pm to
You can certainly do what you want. Your method is just inefficient.

You’re retirement number should be based on your spend. Not how much you “want” to “make”.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
40332 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 7:38 pm to
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Health insurance will be the kicker for me to be able to retire early


You can plan around this easily if you start the process early enough.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
32773 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 7:45 pm to
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Losers always have someone to blame.

go to bed boomer
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
19008 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 8:07 pm to
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Your method is just inefficient.

Not creating animus, but you don't know my methods. To claim to be inefficient is ignorance. I think most here only look to "saved" money vs. passive and deferred income plus saved money. That said, most can only understand a 4-5% distribution option.
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Your "retirement number" should be based on your spend. Not how much you “want” to “make”.


That's not how I operate now while I earn "earned" income, so why does this have to change during my slow down days? My retirement number is 100% of pre-retirement income. I would think everyone would want that if offered.
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4292 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 8:26 pm to
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Health insurance will be the kicker for me to be able to retire early


Tell me about it! That’s the conundrum that I’m facing now… well, next year.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
40332 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 8:37 pm to
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go to bed boomer


You should of seen him in the OT thread a week or so ago. He is going to be one of the people in the OP.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91362 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 9:23 pm to
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BestBanker


You’re a good example of someone who doesn’t know what they don’t know.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
25035 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 9:36 pm to
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My retirement number is 100% of pre-retirement income


Hmmm…that can be quite the moving target over a career. Do you mean post tax take home? Do you back out the retirement contributions that you make now to gross up to a target? I’m intrigued on how you calculate it.

What I believe you are describing is spending much more lavishly in retirement than you ever do in your earning years, all else equal. If lifestyle is unchanged, then living expenses will reduce relatively with healthcare cost being the bogey.
Posted by Odinson
Asgard
Member since Apr 2014
2862 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 10:03 pm to
Good news: I told my wife we’ll both be able to retire very comfortably once our youngest graduates high school.




Bad news: he’s only two lol.
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4292 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 10:12 pm to
Well, hope that he’s a Doogie Howser and you can send him off to college in about 10 years.
Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
18767 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 1:21 am to
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I am out at 53 baws. 10 years for me. Looking forward to it.


I’m 41 and couldn’t imagine being done at 51.
Posted by pdubya76
Sw Ms
Member since Mar 2012
6481 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 4:46 am to
I’ll be 46 in 2 weeks. My plan is to retire at 55. Im on track as of now.
Posted by MSTiger33
Member since Oct 2007
21470 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 5:14 am to
Need to use a special needs trust
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
52952 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 6:13 am to
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Annual Spending: $144,000


Needs to curtail that coke habit
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
19008 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 6:39 am to
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I’m intrigued on how you calculate it.

My focus is on account paydown withdrawals, rental income, deferred compensation, social security, hard asset liquidation if/when necessary, and business continuity as income. My aim is the same/similar gross income. Truly this is not a difficult concept to understand, nor is it antagonistic in nature. I focus on systems, not numbers. The numbers prove the systems.

Slacker is correct that I don't know what I don't know. It's what keeps me going...

...just hope to keep getting better.
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