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re: Fed hides weekly M1 supply, says "money doesn't matter"

Posted on 5/5/21 at 7:07 pm to
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 5/5/21 at 7:07 pm to
Dude it's been explained ad nauseam I'm sorry that you haven't picked up on it. Extracting bonds from the market for bank reserves doesn't do anything to the real economy all other things equal. It just inflates bond prices.
Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
14577 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 7:11 pm to
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If 10 trillion isn't what figure would you say is? 50 trillion? 100 trillion?


QE =/= helicopter money
Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
14577 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 7:12 pm to
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Which should have been done in 2008, they're basically degenerate gamblers.


I don’t disagree there, although 2008 would have been early.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48841 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 7:29 pm to
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real economy


Please differentiate what the "not real" economy is, if it doesn't do anything then why do it?
This post was edited on 5/5/21 at 7:50 pm
Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
14577 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 8:01 pm to
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48841 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 8:05 pm to
The financial economy absolutely effects the real economy
Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
14577 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 8:12 pm to
That’s the Fed view. Where’s the evidence?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162192 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 8:14 pm to
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I'll bump this when you all look like retards, Yellen and everyone at the fed are stupid idiots

I'm not a fan of Yellen but this is comical coming from you
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48841 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 8:39 pm to
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I'm not a fan of Yellen but this is comical coming from you


Coming from the dumbest poster on TD, low IQ prog
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162192 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 8:42 pm to
The fact that you think I'm a prog is essentially proof of your idiocy
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48841 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 8:47 pm to
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That’s the Fed view.


The fed that brought us the 2008 meltdown?
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48841 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 8:48 pm to
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The fact that you think I'm a prog is essentially proof of your idiocy


And you either trying to pretend or even worse actually believing you aren't is proof of yours
Posted by TDFreak
Dodge Charger Aficionado
Member since Dec 2009
7346 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 10:24 pm to
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Tell that to Zimbabwe and Venezuela, this chicken will come home to roost.


Or maybe...just maybeeeee...these guys are walking a tightrope between inflation and deflation and might just pull off the greatest monetary policy feat of all time.

Just sayin. We knock these guys, but I’ve been waiting for inflation to reappear for a long time as well.
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9847 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 10:43 pm to
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Also, I ignored the second part of your quip as what has happened over the last DECADE is irrelevant to the tightening happening TODAY.


Am I wrong in that the reason lending decreases was because of the past 10 years they have been lending like crazy? All that debt. Crisis hits. No money left. Fed prints. It goes to banks.


Am I wrong here? Or are we acting like decreased velocity is because.......

I mean, to me it’s like we maxed out one credit card, get another (fed prints) max that out (fed prints) rinse repeat.

Of course lending tightens when you are over leveraged.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 10:49 pm to
a can of coke will cost $20 and redstick would still be out saying we are worried about deflation
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 5/5/21 at 11:13 pm to
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these guys are walking a tightrope between inflation and deflation and might just pull off the greatest monetary policy feat of all time.


the end game is binary though

1. deflationary collapse
2. continued monetary expansion

Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48841 posts
Posted on 5/6/21 at 3:17 am to
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Or maybe...just maybeeeee...these guys are walking a tightrope between inflation and deflation and might just pull off the greatest monetary policy feat of all time.


Interestingly enough that tightrope always leans toward never ending inflation to make their endless piggy bank money easier to print....
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11071 posts
Posted on 5/6/21 at 8:18 am to
The never ending inflation was because of population growth and a growing labor force with rapidly increasing productivity. Precisely when the monetary base should be growing in theory.
Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
14577 posts
Posted on 5/6/21 at 8:30 am to
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a can of coke will cost $20 and redstick would still be out saying we are worried about deflation


Please show me any developed world economy (ECB, BOE, Fed, BOJ) who has experienced any sustained inflation (let’s call that 2% or more). Here are the balance sheets. You show me the inflation.

Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11071 posts
Posted on 5/6/21 at 8:50 am to
But muh house prices and muh healthcare costs that I don't pay for and muh education vacation costs!
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