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re: Do not sell your shares. This is when you will lose
Posted on 4/5/25 at 10:29 am to ronricks
Posted on 4/5/25 at 10:29 am to ronricks
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Procured $20k this week just trying to decide if I dump it all in QQQM or VTI or split it between the two next week.
I'm a little concerned that QQQ has longer term topped so maybe VTI is a better bet. A trade war, however long it lasts, might support local cos better than international ones. VTI is more exposed to local cos where as QQQ (and M version) has a lot of big cap international tech cos.
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Posted on 4/5/25 at 10:44 am to el Gaucho
Please don’t tell me that lol. Just bought my first NVDA position at 94 yesterday.
Posted on 4/5/25 at 10:56 am to SuckerPunch
youre just selling your shares to people who will sell them back to you for more money later on
Posted on 4/5/25 at 10:59 am to ZZ Pop
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Unless you sold them on Wednesday If you sold Wednesday you're looking like a genius
Not really, unless you also bought them fairly recently, or optioned them in anticipation, but that’s not really what is being discussed here.
This post was edited on 4/5/25 at 11:01 am
Posted on 4/5/25 at 11:03 am to SuckerPunch
That's what people said about NVDA when it dropped to 130, then 120, then 110, then 100 
If you sold at 130 you could buy it back now at 93.
"You haven't lost until you've sold" is just a silly illogical cope.
It doesn't matter where we've been, it matters where we're going.
If you sold at 130 you could buy it back now at 93.
"You haven't lost until you've sold" is just a silly illogical cope.
It doesn't matter where we've been, it matters where we're going.
This post was edited on 4/5/25 at 11:15 am
Posted on 4/5/25 at 11:16 am to ZZ Pop
I’m conflicted. I’m mulling selling my dividend stocks and swapping them for NVDA. Then the other side of me thought it was expensive when it reached $100 last year…And the predictions at that time already baked in 3 years of perfect business operations.
Posted on 4/5/25 at 11:18 am to ZZ Pop
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You haven't lost until you've sold" is just a silly illogical cope. It doesn't matter where we've been, it matters where we're going.
Where are we going?
Posted on 4/5/25 at 11:27 am to GoCrazyAuburn
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Where are we going?
You missed the point.
The point is just because you bought NVDA at 140 doesn't mean it's going back to 140 any time soon, if ever.
For some strange reason people think that the price that they paid for their stock has anything whatsoever to do with where it is headed from here.
Look at the people that bought CSCO at 85 in 2000 and subscribed to the mantra "Just hold, you haven't lost until you've sold".
25 years they're still waiting to get back to 85
This post was edited on 4/5/25 at 11:28 am
Posted on 4/5/25 at 11:33 am to ZZ Pop
I didn’t miss the point. Where are we going? For your statement to have merit, you have to think the entire market is going down and not returning.
Otherwise, all you’re saying is that some stocks will go up and some will go down. That doesn’t change the fact that selling during a dip is generally a bad idea. If you view an individual stock as never going to rebound, sure go for it. That’s not what’s being discussed here though.
And if they haven’t sold it, they still haven’t lost any money. What did they buy it at? The points are trying to make really is a poor one. If you have sound, long term investment strategies, then there is nothing to worry over.
Now, if you want to have a discussion on where may be a more efficient place to put the money instead of that stock, and maybe that is worth taking the loss, that’s fine. However, eliminating your lower cost basis for a higher cost basis, just because the market went down is beyond idiotic to do on the aggregate.
Otherwise, all you’re saying is that some stocks will go up and some will go down. That doesn’t change the fact that selling during a dip is generally a bad idea. If you view an individual stock as never going to rebound, sure go for it. That’s not what’s being discussed here though.
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Look at the people that bought CSCO at 85 in 2000 and subscribed to the mantra "Just hold, you haven't lost until you've sold". 25 years they're still waiting to get back to 85
And if they haven’t sold it, they still haven’t lost any money. What did they buy it at? The points are trying to make really is a poor one. If you have sound, long term investment strategies, then there is nothing to worry over.
Now, if you want to have a discussion on where may be a more efficient place to put the money instead of that stock, and maybe that is worth taking the loss, that’s fine. However, eliminating your lower cost basis for a higher cost basis, just because the market went down is beyond idiotic to do on the aggregate.
This post was edited on 4/5/25 at 11:37 am
Posted on 4/5/25 at 11:38 am to SuckerPunch
certain high volatility funds are not coming back. they are crashing badly. many were on a long downward trend.
you cannot generalize.
now if you are speaking of a index fund like S&P 500 like VOO or SPY then i agree!
you cannot generalize.
now if you are speaking of a index fund like S&P 500 like VOO or SPY then i agree!
Posted on 4/5/25 at 11:41 am to SuckerPunch
I've bought into it and will buy into it again in 3 months if need be. This is where significant money can be made.
Posted on 4/5/25 at 11:43 am to RoyalWe
Need a Glengarry Glenross gif “Always. Be. Buying”
Posted on 4/5/25 at 11:43 am to UltimaParadox
quote:Buffet was not holding cash because he thought the market was entering a downturn. He just didn't see any good deals to invest in.
Are you referring to his cash position? That seems like a stretch that buffet was predicting the down turn.
Posted on 4/5/25 at 11:45 am to Lsu05
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Please don’t tell me that lol. Just bought my first NVDA position at 94 yesterday.
I've been trading NVDA for a couple of years now and that's a good entry point. It could go lower of course if the market keeps dropping. The 100dma is at $88.6 and rising so that might be the ultimate bottom. I bought in late Friday at 94 myself and will double down around $89-$91 next week if we get it. I'm am nervous about the deepseek type entrants so it might not return to new highs any time soon. I'll be out in the $117-$125 range.
Posted on 4/5/25 at 11:46 am to Geaux Guy
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We were told so clearly by Warren Buffet, Donald Trump and quite frankly, ‘almost everyone’ that this was going to happen. Growing through all of this, I almost feel guilty of ‘insider trading’
Correct. If you didn't get out of the market after the Deepseek product was released then you are not very educated. All the signs were there...From past experience, some people will never sell no matter how much warning you give them. 2008 was a prime example
Posted on 4/5/25 at 11:47 am to GoCrazyAuburn
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Look at the people that bought CSCO at 85 in 2000 and subscribed to the mantra "Just hold, you haven't lost until you've sold". 25 years they're still waiting to get back to 85
And if they haven’t sold it, they still haven’t lost any money.
an investment is made to turn a profit.
just because you haven't sold something doesn't mean you haven't lost value. there is an opportunity cost of holding an asset. every day/week/month/year you hold onto an asset that isn't going up in value, you are in effect losing money.
I'm not saying SELL. I'm just saying there is always a better move than a stagnant asset (if you anticipate it will remain stagnant or go down)
This post was edited on 4/5/25 at 11:52 am
Posted on 4/5/25 at 11:54 am to Corinthians420
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an investment is made to turn a profit.
Correct. And? Did you purposefully ignore the rest asking about cost basis? Just because the sell of something on paper would make less money than it would have last week, does not mean you haven’t made a profit.
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just because you haven't sold something doesn't mean you haven't lost value.
On paper. Unless you think things are never going up again, why are you concerned? The asset you hold is shares. The paper value at any given time goes up and down. So what?
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there is an opportunity cost of holding an asset. every day/week/month/year you hold onto an asset that isn't going up in value, you are in effect losing money
Sure. Where have I disagreed there? That doesn’t change the fact that getting out of a lower cost position for a higher cost position is generally a bad idea. Nobody here has said it should never be done. Just the chicken little reactions because the market goes down is not the reason to do so. Not sure why that is difficult for some here to understand.
Posted on 4/5/25 at 12:00 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
you're fine. I would not recommend selling right now. I'm just saying I wouldn't hesitate to sell one stock for another just because I am "losing" by selling while it is down.
Posted on 4/5/25 at 12:03 pm to Corinthians420
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you're fine. I would not recommend selling right now. I'm just saying I wouldn't hesitate to sell one stock for another just because I am "losing" by selling while it is down.
Again, it’s completely dependent on the situation. Nobody is saying never do this. Doing this, because the market dipped isn’t a great idea.
Now, if you think you’ve identified a different stock that will capitalize on the eventual rebound more than that one, even taking into account you having to increase your cost basis position, go for it. That’s a judgement call. That is very different than people getting out of the market entirely, which is what the OP’s post is largely directed at, that people are freaking out and discussing potentially doing.
Posted on 4/5/25 at 12:05 pm to scottydoesntknow
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The market was immensely overvalued...but it will eventually come back up
Agreed - it's about fairly valued right here if earnings estimates are accurate.
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