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re: Diving deeper on Standard Lithium?

Posted on 2/4/22 at 4:53 pm to
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 2/4/22 at 4:53 pm to
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Lending shares does not drive the price down.


This is the first I have heard someone argue that short selling doesn’t drive down price. Explain how short selling doesn’t drive down price please.
This post was edited on 2/4/22 at 4:54 pm
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 2/4/22 at 4:55 pm to
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Tell me, specifically, how it drives the price down.


The people who are borrowing the shares sell them immediately. Sells of a stock cause price to go down.
Posted by Fe_Mike
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 2/4/22 at 5:02 pm to
Short selling drives the price down just as much as regular selling and just as much (inversely) as buying drives it up.

I guess his logic is that there are so many shares available for lending that any individual lending shares (or not lending) doesn’t impact the short pressure. Which is right. In fantasy land where all shares are unavailable for shorting the price is probably higher. But that can’t happen.

If his logic is that “people shorting shares doesn’t impact the price” then that is just straight wrong.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
30956 posts
Posted on 2/5/22 at 10:23 am to
But the more shares available to short, the bigger the target and payday for these large, coordinated shorts.
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 2/5/22 at 4:12 pm to
It'd be interesting to know if any of the institutions that are holding lend their shares.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
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Posted on 2/7/22 at 8:21 am to
Dang is it Thursday again
Posted by Fe_Mike
Member since Jul 2015
3702 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 8:32 am to
This thing is the most volatile stock I think I’ve ever followed.
Posted by Fe_Mike
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 2/7/22 at 8:34 am to
Just looked at the premarket action.

That was a timed bear raid trying to catch stop losses if I have ever seen one. I’m buying $2k now to flip today.
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 2/7/22 at 8:38 am to
same
Posted by GeneralLee
Member since Aug 2004
13946 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 8:43 am to
Yeah down 10% on 300K volume, what a joke.
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 2/7/22 at 9:26 am to
This feels like new nkla
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
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Member since May 2013
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Posted on 2/7/22 at 10:20 am to
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Explain how short selling doesn’t drive down price please.



I should've clarified by saying "long term it doesn't affect share price."

When someone borrows shares to sell short, they do sell them immediately which can create downward pressure on the stock price. But the difference with a short seller vs a normal trader is that the short seller HAS to buy the shares back at some point, often within days/weeks. So at the end of the day the net change in shares is 0. Whereas a normal trader who sells may never buy back in.

If I'm thinking about this wrong, would love to be corrected.
This post was edited on 2/7/22 at 10:22 am
Posted by Auburn1968
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Member since Mar 2019
25198 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 11:07 am to
Who's swing trading this volatility? I think I'll put 1000 shares into swings just to keep it interesting.

I just hope that 1000 doesn't get caught on the profit taking side when the JV is cemented.
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
6918 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 11:11 am to
quote:

Who's swing trading this volatility?


I've been making good money swinging it.. Currently waiting on an upturn..
Posted by Hogwallop
Member since Jul 2021
413 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 1:08 pm to
quote:

Who's swing trading this volatility
since three days before uplist

quote:

I just hope that 1000 doesn't get caught on the profit taking side when the JV is cemented.
I don't touch long term shares for trades. Buy new shares on dip, sell at profit.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
25198 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 1:14 pm to
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I don't touch long term shares for trades. Buy new shares on dip, sell at profit.


I have enough shares that I can swing a thousand or a few thousand and sidestep the unsettled funds problems with quick turnarounds. The JV seems like it has gotcha potential somewhere up the line though. I don't want to be caught having sold a swing when the JV is sprung on us.
This post was edited on 2/7/22 at 2:27 pm
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 2/8/22 at 4:18 am to
Gap down
Posted by el Gaucho
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58518 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 6:43 am to
Dang we actually green premarket now

Whoa
Posted by ThermoDynamicTiger
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Member since Jul 2008
1449 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 6:47 am to
Are you having conversations with yourself now. Is that where we're at?
Posted by el Gaucho
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Member since Dec 2010
58518 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 6:48 am to
Yeah

I’m the only one still holding

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