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re: Diving deeper on Standard Lithium?
Posted on 2/4/22 at 8:40 am to Fe_Mike
Posted on 2/4/22 at 8:40 am to Fe_Mike
I am admittedly very uninformed on securities law so this might be a dumb question but:
So how is the blue orca/Hindenburg strategy legal?
They take a short position before releasing an article to a large investor base, knowing that their biased information will cause the stock price to drop.
How is that different from say Cramer taking a long position in a company the week before they go on his show to get pumped? There is a reason he’s not allowed to do that. So these Orca/Hindenburg folks shouldn’t be allowed to have positions in the companies they report on. At least not until after their report is released.
So how is the blue orca/Hindenburg strategy legal?
They take a short position before releasing an article to a large investor base, knowing that their biased information will cause the stock price to drop.
How is that different from say Cramer taking a long position in a company the week before they go on his show to get pumped? There is a reason he’s not allowed to do that. So these Orca/Hindenburg folks shouldn’t be allowed to have positions in the companies they report on. At least not until after their report is released.
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Posted on 2/4/22 at 8:46 am to Fe_Mike
quote:
I am admittedly very uninformed on securities law so this might be a dumb question but:
So how is the blue orca/Hindenburg strategy legal?
They take a short position before releasing an article to a large investor base, knowing that their biased information will cause the stock price to drop.
How is that different from say Cramer taking a long position in a company the week before they go on his show to get pumped? There is a reason he’s not allowed to do that. So these Orca/Hindenburg folks shouldn’t be allowed to have positions in the companies they report on. At least not until after their report is released.
Good question. Of course, they could just have their buddies take the short positions when they manipulate the market.
The market looks like a bunch of sheep in a nice patch of grass when Hindenburg comes along and shouts "Wolf! Wolf! Wolf!"
Posted on 2/4/22 at 8:50 am to GeneralLee
quote:
Yeah I don't think it goes back over $8 again until agreement with Lanxess reached on first plant (at which point it might go to $10+). Might see $4 before $8 if broader market tanks 15-20%+.
Yeah, I think Hindenburg timed the release of their "report" to coincide with the market dip for that extra special hysteria sauce.
Posted on 2/4/22 at 8:54 am to Fe_Mike
Great intel and thanks for sharing. I strongly believe that the prudent seek out information close to the source. When information such as short selling, for example, is filtered any strategy could be identified.
I hope you get an answer for your question.
I hope you get an answer for your question.
Posted on 2/4/22 at 9:36 am to Fe_Mike
quote:
I am admittedly very uninformed on securities law so this might be a dumb question but:
So how is the blue orca/Hindenburg strategy legal?
They take a short position before releasing an article to a large investor base, knowing that their biased information will cause the stock price to drop.
How is that different from say Cramer taking a long position in a company the week before they go on his show to get pumped? There is a reason he’s not allowed to do that. So these Orca/Hindenburg folks shouldn’t be allowed to have positions in the companies they report on. At least not until after their report is released.
I certainly don't know either, but as you or someone stated, perhaps we'll see what, if anything, the powers at Koch choose to do.
Then again, Koch has more knowledge of this internal situation at SLI than perhaps anyone. If they're sitting on a gold mine, they'll scoop up more shares at $5.xx. Hell, they put in $100mm at 7.49
Wouldn't you love be to a fly on the wall at Koch yesterday and today. Much less at SLI.
In reality, if it's truly valuable, do the big hitters really care what today's stock price is? (This is not rhetorical).
This post was edited on 2/4/22 at 9:37 am
Posted on 2/4/22 at 9:38 am to Auburn1968
Joe Lowry of Global Lithium said the following on Twitter:
“The @HindenburgRes report is hardly research. It is simply an ad hominem attack. @KochIndustries is methodical & has a long track record of successful investments. Disappointing that @Reuters gave HR this much space. #SlowNewsDay Stay tuned - the Hindenburg’s fate is well known.”
“The @HindenburgRes report is hardly research. It is simply an ad hominem attack. @KochIndustries is methodical & has a long track record of successful investments. Disappointing that @Reuters gave HR this much space. #SlowNewsDay Stay tuned - the Hindenburg’s fate is well known.”
Posted on 2/4/22 at 9:42 am to Beerinthepocket
I want to believe every word that Joe utters, but in reality, his income is tied to the success of lithium in general. Or even just the hope that lithium will be in huge demand, and he is in the know.
He is obviously friends with most of big lithium names, and I'm sure enjoys the fruits.
One has to listen to his words with a critical ear.
He is obviously friends with most of big lithium names, and I'm sure enjoys the fruits.
One has to listen to his words with a critical ear.
Posted on 2/4/22 at 10:23 am to Grassy1
What’s our realistic price target here? Morningstar has this at 11.50 fair value lol not sure I believe that one but who knows
Posted on 2/4/22 at 10:31 am to el Gaucho
Funny that Hindenburg considers this a self-promoting pump and dump and we complained for so long that they didn't do enough self-promoting. They have always been very quiet.
Posted on 2/4/22 at 10:56 am to ThermoDynamicTiger
Yeah not sure why they acted like mintak was a slick conman when we all know he’s so shy
This post was edited on 2/4/22 at 10:57 am
Posted on 2/4/22 at 11:12 am to el Gaucho
They also beat them up in the article over DLE technology. Why did they not throw shade over at Bill Gates company Lilac solutions who also used DLE?
The more I digest this, the more I think someone is targeting SLI specifically bc they’re about to disrupt this industry.
The more I digest this, the more I think someone is targeting SLI specifically bc they’re about to disrupt this industry.
Posted on 2/4/22 at 11:32 am to Shepherd88
I tend to think of this stuff in a simple manner. Follow the money, in the most direct path. Both attacks were about making money in the short term. Creating panic then taking profit, nothing more.
Nothing an individual investor/trader can do but take advantage of the opportunities.
Nothing an individual investor/trader can do but take advantage of the opportunities.
Posted on 2/4/22 at 11:46 am to Hogwallop
Congrats to the baws who added yesterday. I only grabbed 250 shares because I'm running out of cash to buy dips, but hell it was better than nothing. 
Posted on 2/4/22 at 11:46 am to Hogwallop
Not gonna lie fellas
I think Sli and green shite cringe but my economic future depends on this stock going up and the band is recording the new album in a couple weeks
Not putting the Sli song on there but I’m gonna get it recorded during the session and post it here and StockTwits. Mintak better pay me
I think Sli and green shite cringe but my economic future depends on this stock going up and the band is recording the new album in a couple weeks
Not putting the Sli song on there but I’m gonna get it recorded during the session and post it here and StockTwits. Mintak better pay me
Posted on 2/4/22 at 12:07 pm to el Gaucho
Let’s get a few more posts going so we can get off of this page number. It’s impeccable timing with the dip for sure.
Posted on 2/4/22 at 12:13 pm to Tower_Tiger12
I literally just thought the same thing lol
Posted on 2/4/22 at 12:22 pm to Shepherd88
Welp I've almost finished dumping the 2000+ shares I bought at 5.25-5.3 yesterday. Gotten anywhere between 6 and 6.20 for em. I don't usually do short term trades but this was a special occurrence.
Now I'm back to plain old EXTREMELY overweight in SLI
Now I'm back to plain old EXTREMELY overweight in SLI
Posted on 2/4/22 at 12:55 pm to el Gaucho
In on page 666 
Posted on 2/4/22 at 1:03 pm to jimjackandjose
bump for 667
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