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re: Diving deeper on Standard Lithium?

Posted on 12/15/21 at 7:36 am to
Posted by jimjackandjose
Member since Jun 2011
6529 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 7:36 am to
Yea it feels like lanxness has completely reneged on their end.

Wish they would just start the build out on tetra. frick lanxness
Posted by bet84
Texas
Member since Jul 2021
103 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 7:47 am to
I don’t think they would be working on the build out plans on the 1st project at the existing location if Lanxess wasn’t still in.
This post was edited on 12/15/21 at 7:53 am
Posted by Guntoter1
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2020
1089 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 7:55 am to
Think about this from Lanxess point of view.
Lanxess can spend no money on Sli and invest that money elsewhere and let Sli finance the build while Lanxess will still reap 60% of the profits.
Posted by bet84
Texas
Member since Jul 2021
103 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 8:06 am to
The Term Sheet was pretty vague regarding who pays for the construction. It mentions Lanxess to contribute to the joint venture with options for SLI to participate as well. I wish they would finalize the JV so investors would have better info.
Posted by Fe_Mike
Member since Jul 2015
3317 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 8:33 am to
Standard likes them damn acronyms huh?
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 8:36 am to
Why are the numbers next to SLi green?
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
27769 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 8:44 am to
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I don’t think Lanxess wants to put money into this.

From what I've heard, Lanxess has already budgeted for the build out of first site. Other two sites still being negotiated. Apparently their have been ongoing negotiations and renegotiations on the split of revenue. Koch deal has given SLI leverage with their cash.

My understanding is the Tetra plant will be brought along about the same time as Lanxess. Before they were counting on revenue from Lanxess projects to help secure funding for Tetra. A lot of things have changed over the past year. Supply chain issues are becoming a bigger problem. Koch can help with that immensely for both projects.

Koch also brings the political pull to get some of that gov't money for Tetra build out. There's quite a bit to be had. I'd figured SLI would have a hard time getting much due to lack of influence, but that changed. That would be huge as it would allow faster build out of Tetra project without dilution. Certainly can't count on it, but I believe Koch likely locked that down before committing $100million. They have immense political pull.

Not sure where I stand on Lanxess. I could certainly see them giving up revenue to decrease their investment just because they are so risk averse and spent so much on their two acquisitions. Just my opinion, but I think they thought they had Mintak over a barrel. Mintak met with them in Germany to tell them to shite or get off the pot and they sat on the pot. He then went on his fundraising tour. I'd assume he had the Koch deal in his pocket and gave Lanxess an ultimatum on the FID. Lanxess slow played them and Mintak shoved his Koch up their anus.

Tetra>>>>profit potential than Lanxess projects combined possibly unless revenue split changes.

I need to go back and watch those last Lanxess earnings call and conference call. What I took as uncertainty in process/investment could've been asshurt. The whole dog and pony show we hoped was to announce the JV may have been to convince their higher ups and investors to pony up the cash or lose out. I don't think SLI is trying to burn any bridges here and a mutually beneficial, but altered deal is being worked out. But that just my opinion. Everyone at Lanxess and SLI I know still seem upbeat and like everything is a go.

I'm not certain enough to go back as deep as I was, but I will update if I get any new info. It's been quiet and nobody seems panicked or concerned. WTF knows though?!!

They had been trying to stay ahead of supply chain issues, but I don't think there was anyway to forecast the shite storm we're seeing and I think it would be prudent to wait a bit versus spending shite tons of money at the moment as everyone will be impacted.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
54715 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 8:45 am to
Sli could cure cancer and still be red
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
4666 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 8:47 am to
quote:

SLi green?


It’s just getting into the Christmas spirit. Red/green/red/red/red/green
Posted by Pendulum
Member since Jan 2009
7253 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 8:52 am to
I'd expect everything in my portfolio to be red after about 145 cst. The fences have been set, time to herd the cattle. Then after a half day of trading or so, we'll bounce because there's a certain degree of certainty now, whether good or bad for equities in the short term, and most of the money is positioned for this already.

Abbv leading the way for me today.
This post was edited on 12/15/21 at 8:56 am
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 8:58 am to
Red

Green

Red
This post was edited on 12/15/21 at 9:14 am
Posted by HogBalls
Member since Nov 2014
8645 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 9:21 am to
quote:

I'd expect everything in my portfolio to be red after about 145 cst. The fences have been set, time to herd the cattle

Posted by FMtTXtiger
Member since Oct 2018
3974 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 9:43 am to
was the koch investment that big?

And how much of a supply chain issue does SLI have at this stage of their business?
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 9:45 am to
quote:

And how much of a supply chain issue does SLI have at this stage of their business?



Their apparel division is really slowing down the lithium extraction operation. Those Dri fit shirts won’t ship themselves.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
57371 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 9:55 am to
I have exited the ranks of SLI investment. I will keep watching and reenter. I just saw the PR and it seems pretty damn weak. There will be plenty chances to re buy in the future.
Posted by Fe_Mike
Member since Jul 2015
3317 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 9:55 am to
Good gosh the market is just a hell hole right now.

This is miserable.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
21088 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 9:59 am to
quote:

This is a good thing, and what we were hoping Koch would bring to the table.

Some damn movement toward making product.


That will be the launch point. I hope it is sooner.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
54715 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 10:04 am to
I wish mintak would sprinkle some lithium into the brine and get that 13% up
Posted by Black n Gold
Member since Feb 2009
15477 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 10:05 am to
quote:

There will be plenty chances to re buy in the future.


I agree. I'm looking to double my current shares, but will practice great patience in doing so. Can't imagine much upward movement on SLI and similar stock over the next few weeks. Maybe even months.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
54715 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 10:05 am to
quote:

I have exited the ranks of SLI investment. I will keep watching and reenter. I just saw the PR and it seems pretty damn weak. There will be plenty chances to re buy in the future.


Damn I’m kinda jealous of you bagholders. If I sell I gotta pay taxes
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