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re: Diving deeper on Standard Lithium?

Posted on 8/18/21 at 9:21 am to
Posted by Yak
DuPage County
Member since May 2014
4672 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 9:21 am to
Is all this movement due to options now being available?
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
56850 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 9:24 am to
It’s because we trusted the plan
Posted by Who_Dat_Tiger
Member since Nov 2015
22411 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 9:25 am to
Congrats to everyone that didn’t panic yesterday and recognized the buying opportunity
Posted by Yak
DuPage County
Member since May 2014
4672 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 9:26 am to
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It’s because we trusted the plan
Next stop, Valhalla
Posted by CecilShortsHisPants
One Foty Fo uh uh Magnolia Screet
Member since Oct 2012
3374 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 9:28 am to
I blew my load at 6.04. Average price target is $8+.

Eta: for whatever its worth, Albemarle is up only 1.5% today...
This post was edited on 8/18/21 at 9:31 am
Posted by GeneralLee
Member since Aug 2004
13877 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 9:28 am to
Highest option strike right now is $12.5, so I can't sell my $20 covered calls just yet. Very low volume on them so far.
Posted by ColoradoAg03
Denver, CO
Member since Oct 2012
6424 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 9:35 am to
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I really need to figure out options.


Investopedia
Posted by Krayfish11
Member since Aug 2021
27 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 9:39 am to
So let’s just say JV is not happening…. Where does that leave the company and what would be the outlook for the next year? What would be the route of success without it..
Posted by GrizzlyAlloy
Member since Aug 2020
2581 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 9:44 am to
Found what I was referring to. It was an Iron Mike comment. Lanxess opted for shares instead of getting the loan repaid in cash. They have to hold the shares for 4 months before they can sell them. It's anyone's guess as to what they will do with the shares at 4 months if they decide no JV. Anyone able to find what that date may be?

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I’m thinking that if Lanxess didn’t want to move forward and didn’t believe in Standard Lithium’s technology and goals, they would have rather opted for their cash back instead of shares of Standard Lithium.



Again, and please don't misconstrue my point here because I'm long and really believe in SL, why do people keep pointing to this as a belief that Lanxess just 'bought in' to STLHF?

In what world would Lanxess have 'rather opted for their cash back'? The loan was for a value of $3.75MM. If Lanxess wanted cash repayment, they would have gotten....$3.75MM (plus 3% interest because SL isn't turning a profit yet, whoopee). Their option was to accept shares (6.25 MM to be precise, plus another 3+MM warrants). That's $30 million if they exercise the warrants. It doesn't take Warren Buffett to figure out the math on that one, fellas.

The only stipulation in the conversion is that Lanxess must hold for 4 months. That isn't exactly a risk when the share price is 8x what they 'paid' for the shares. They chose $20 million over $4 million. Period. There is no 'secret meaning' to glean from that; it's just the obvious payout to accept, regardless of your long term view of the company whose shares you are getting.
This post was edited on 8/18/21 at 9:47 am
Posted by JustForThisThread
Member since Mar 2013
370 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 9:44 am to
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Missed the dip, dammit. Sigh.


Me as well......again. Seems every time I'm busy and not able to follow is when there is a hefty dip.
Posted by Elusiveporpi
Below I-10
Member since Feb 2011
2642 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 9:46 am to
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I just got the reminder on my phone I set a while ago to evaluate selling if no JV announcement in a week. I seem to remember there being a time frame that Lanxess has to buy their shares at a certain price or something.


I remember Smack saying something a few weeks ago " if we dont see a JV in the next few weeks , we should start getting never nervous"
thats not exact words but it was something to that affectt.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
34005 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 9:47 am to
First day in a while that some of my SLI shares are not included in the fully paid shares lending program. Not saying that means anything, just an observation.
Posted by CecilShortsHisPants
One Foty Fo uh uh Magnolia Screet
Member since Oct 2012
3374 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:16 am to
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dont see a JV in the next few weeks , we should start getting never nervous

With or without it, the price is soaring for an unknown reason, if its simply the fundamentals of the company, someone will fund our scaling.
Also, the terms of the JV have been in negotiation for nearly 3 years, lots of unknowns still...
Posted by Shamoan
Member since Feb 2019
11542 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:17 am to
so what is the catalyst for today? options option?
Posted by jimjackandjose
Member since Jun 2011
6635 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:19 am to
Was oversold significantly
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
34005 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:19 am to
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options option?


That's what I was thinking. A decent volume of $7.50 strike options being bought, and someone bought 73 Apr '22 $12.50 calls.
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
6163 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:20 am to
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someone bought 73 Apr '22 $12.50 calls.


I bought 1
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
34005 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:24 am to
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I bought 1




You clearly were not the only one with that idea. Not a single put sold yet.
This post was edited on 8/18/21 at 10:25 am
Posted by igoringa
South Mississippi
Member since Jun 2007
11901 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:27 am to
I would be surprised if it had anything to do with options.

A couple hundred calls have been sold which have an underlying of about 20K shares. Trading volume is 1.265 million in first hour.... this is a bounce back. Hopefully not dead cat.
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
6163 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:41 am to
Smack just bought back in with 100,000 shares
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