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Denied a credit card for having too high of credit rating?

Posted on 6/28/24 at 4:20 pm
Posted by LoneStar23
USA
Member since Aug 2019
5784 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 4:20 pm
I use my credit card specifically for groceries and gas. I keep my usage below 5% and have a credit score of , 815. I was denied a new card because they said I don't keep enough revolving balances. Is this common? I haven't applied for a new card in probably 6+ years.
Posted by kc8876
Member since May 2012
3592 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 4:24 pm to
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I use my credit card specifically for groceries and gas. I keep my usage below 5% and have a credit score of , 815. I was denied a new card because they said I don't keep enough revolving balances. Is this common? I haven't applied for a new card in probably 6+ years.


Why would they want you if you don’t use over 5%? That’s almost like not using it, they cant make money off of you

This post was edited on 6/28/24 at 4:27 pm
Posted by LoneStar23
USA
Member since Aug 2019
5784 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 4:29 pm to
Well it's a catch 22. If you use more than 10% it hurts your credit score but then if you don't use enough they hate you
Posted by kc8876
Member since May 2012
3592 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 4:45 pm to
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Well it's a catch 22. If you use more than 10% it hurts your credit score but then if you don't use enough they hate you


You have no idea what you’re talking about
Posted by LoneStar23
USA
Member since Aug 2019
5784 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 4:47 pm to
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You have no idea what you’re talking about

Lol okay, credit usage percentage has a high impact on your credit score but what do I know
This post was edited on 6/28/24 at 4:49 pm
Posted by kc8876
Member since May 2012
3592 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 5:09 pm to
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Lol okay, credit usage percentage has a high impact on your credit score but what do I know


Of course it does. I was responding to your comment about using over 10 percent of it bringing your score down. The effect would be negligible. Keep it under 30% and pay your balance off every month and you’ll be fine, and still have a score over 800. Having a credit card and only using 5% of your credit usage because you’re worried about your score fluctuating 15-20 points is ridiculous
This post was edited on 6/28/24 at 5:22 pm
Posted by nugget
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 5:33 pm to
Which card were you denied?
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 5:51 pm to
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Well it's a catch 22. If you use more than 10% it hurts your credit score but then if you don't use enough they hate you


Citi cut my limit because I wasn't running a crazy high balance.

I think they make enough off my tax dollars so they don't need interest rates on top of that.
Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2008
51554 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 6:22 pm to
Never heard of this before, what card was it?

Do you have other cards through this bank that you never use?
Posted by LoneStar23
USA
Member since Aug 2019
5784 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 6:47 pm to
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Which card were you denied?


Sofi 2% unlimited cash back. I wanted a card with no category restrictions, no annual fee and I was going to use it more. Currently I just use the Capital one savor for 3% back on groceries
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61302 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 9:10 pm to
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Citi cut my limit because I wasn't running a crazy high balance.


That’s strange. 3 or 4 years ago a card increased my credit limit and I called to ask them to lower it back. I was worried that my somewhat low spend and paying it off every month would hurt my score.
Now I’ve just let it go and don’t worry about it.
This post was edited on 6/29/24 at 10:46 am
Posted by LSUGUMBO
Shreveport, LA
Member since Sep 2005
9518 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 11:20 pm to
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Well it's a catch 22. If you use more than 10% it hurts your credit score but then if you don't use enough they hate you


I don’t know what percentage of my credit I was using, but I put $1,200 of dental work on Care Credit about 6 months ago and my score dropped from 815 to 775 paid it off over a couple of months, back up to 814. Crazy how that works.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
83721 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 7:04 am to
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I was denied a new card because they said I don't keep enough revolving balances. Is this common? I


Never heard of that, but maybe there are new red flags since consumer credit debt is at an all time high and they don't want to risk someone having tons of open credit sitting there and then it being run up and default

They want proof of consistent historical usage/payments
Posted by METAL
Member since Nov 2020
1599 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 7:21 am to
Use as in carry a balance? I frequently max mine out and pay it off in the same month. Doesn’t negatively affect me score.
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
20877 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 10:16 pm to
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I put $1,200 of dental work on Care Credit about 6 months ago and my score dropped from 815 to 775
.

People with bad teeth tend to be poor credit risks.
Posted by Hussss
Helena, AL
Member since Oct 2016
7777 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 6:29 pm to
Credit scores = How good of a debt slave you are
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61302 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 6:32 pm to
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Hussss



Who let this loon out of his cage?
Posted by faraway
Member since Nov 2022
3569 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 7:32 pm to
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Credit scores = How good of a debt slave you are
or how bad of a debt slave for some of us
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36776 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 8:20 pm to
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Sofi 2% unlimited cash back. I wanted a card with no category restrictions, no annual fee and I was going to use it more. Currently I just use the Capital one savor for 3% back on groceries


You don't want that card anyway. They won't give you a credit limit increase. You can't even request one.

Fidelity has a 2% cash back and Citi has a double cash back. Wells fargo has a 2% as well. I'd get the citi when it has a sign up bonus.
Posted by MikeyFL
Member since Sep 2010
10201 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 10:31 pm to
It's not common. However, there are datapoints from the myfico forums and reddit which seem to indicate that a handful of cards have algorhithms which purposefully try to screen out:

1) People who never run a balance
2) People who churn credit card bonuses
3) People who maximize the bonus categories on lots of different credit cards

Right now, the Capital One Venture X seems to be the most notorious card along these lines. Some individuals with 800+ credit scores and impecable records have reported being denied "for too many revolving credit lines" and/or other seemingly bogus reasons. Others with credit scores between 730-800 and minimal lines of credit have had few problems with their applications.

This doesn't seem to be a widespread issue. However, I wouldn't be surprised if more credit card issuers try to tweak their algorhithms to focus on the "highly profitable" card holders who carry balances but don't default.
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