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Posted on 3/15/23 at 11:09 am to
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6-- the Brazos River Valley
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Posted on 3/15/23 at 11:09 am to
Beware the Ides Of March.

As was the case many, many years ago, it'll be a bloodbath--figuratively, of course
Posted by leeman101
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2020
2437 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 12:09 pm to
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Beware the Ides Of March.

As was the case many, many years ago, it'll be a bloodbath--figuratively, of course


Good one
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 3/15/23 at 12:13 pm to
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Could be a rough day 3/15/23


Can confirm. Market is down bigly.
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
45478 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 12:26 pm to
Most regionals are down 3-6%. Truist is up 2% on an overnight Citi upgrade to "Buy". First Republic is down 20%.

Overall, the sector is taking a black eye.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61311 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 1:15 pm to
Why is oil and oil stocks down so much today?
Posted by KLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 3/15/23 at 1:55 pm to
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Why is oil and oil stocks down so much today?


I would think with the economy showing signs of at best slowing down demand will drop for oil.

I'm no financial person but seems logical.
Posted by Tomatocantender
Boot
Member since Jun 2021
5578 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 1:59 pm to
Something fishy is going on. Oil is tanking, Silver is flatlining, low P/E stocks that have nothing to do with the financial sector have lost 15% or more within the last 3 days, etc. Seems like this is premeditated and the beginning of a designed stock market recession in an off presidential election voting year.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 3/15/23 at 2:07 pm to
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Something fishy is going on.


All of my energy stocks are taking beating today.
Posted by LSUShock
Kansas
Member since Jun 2014
5577 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 2:18 pm to
I come here to say this each time there is market volatility.

I'm not smart enough to piece it all together from a macro economic standpoint, but we see these things on the front end more often than not being in global freight.

I'm quoting Asia to US ocean containers at $1000 to the US West Coast and $2700 into the USEC. $3600 into inland locations.

That's off a high of $16,000+ to all those locations June 2021-June 2022. That number has dropped every night since July W1. It's now almost to the floor we saw in 2019. We will hit that.

Every customer we have talked to is ordering fewer PO's and thus fewer containers than they have in any of the recent years. Most retail or consumer importers have Inventory to Sales numbers that have skyrocketed and can't even draw down the goods they do have at landed costs way higher than what they would pay now. It's why your TJ Maxx's and Ross/ and Burlington's are bursting at the seams right now.

For demand to go up we need replenishment cycle velocities to increase. Nobody is talking about that happening anytime soon. Everyone is walking on egg shells. More and more of our customer are asking for extended terms.

There's still plenty of business to grab, especially B-to-B and Industrial, and we will go get it, but it does feel fishy out here.
This post was edited on 3/16/23 at 8:28 am
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
20662 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 2:28 pm to
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I feel like I've been hearing about them going down the tubes for like 3 years now.

Yeah but the saudis pulled their safety valve and now they are looking at a government bailout or a full scale bust.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
20662 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 2:32 pm to
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Seems like this is premeditated and the beginning of a designed stock market recession

We’ve been in a recession, this is the beginning of something far more systemic that might not be fully recoverable.

The government will have to bail out more and more banks by buying their depreciated bonds to remove their undeclared losses and ensure they remain solvent, which will lead to additional printing of money and thus accelerated inflation.

Best case it stabilizes with a further depreciated dollar, worst case it triggers the end of the petro dollar and either a war or a depression.
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
38423 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 2:50 pm to
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Best case it stabilizes with a further depreciated dollar, worst case it triggers the end of the petro dollar and either a war or a depression.


Bingo. There is no other best case scenario. Inflation is here to stay and will change everything fundamentally about the economy.

Posted by Bard
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Posted on 3/15/23 at 4:27 pm to
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LSUShock

I always enjoy reading your industry analysis. Nothing but straight data on something so basic yet foundational to the economy.
Posted by Penn
Jax Beach
Member since Jan 2008
23643 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 6:37 pm to
Agreed
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4292 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 6:51 pm to
I agree as well. That was a very informative read. No BS or hyperbole. I really enjoyed reading his post.
Posted by UpstairsComputer
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2017
1799 posts
Posted on 3/16/23 at 8:32 am to


Looks like 16 years...
Posted by ynlvr
Rocket City
Member since Feb 2009
5311 posts
Posted on 3/16/23 at 8:42 am to
Trading halted on First Republic
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