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Cash-flow 44 month MBA vs. Borrow for 22 month program

Posted on 3/20/17 at 1:39 pm
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 3/20/17 at 1:39 pm
Likely going to start LSU PMBA in August. They offer the program in 1 or 2 classes per module; with the 1 class option taking 44 months and the 2 class option taking 22 months.

If I go the 44 month route, I can cash-flow the program. Downside is it taking nearly 4 years. Going the 22 month route, I would need to borrow about half of the cost for each module.

Thoughts?
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 2:12 pm to
What interest rate do you believe you will have to pay?

How much more money do you think you will earn upon graduating?

How much $ will need to be financed?

What is the duration of the financing?

If you know those numbers, its a pretty simple calculation.
Posted by raw dog
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2011
483 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 2:27 pm to
"How much more money do you think you will earn upon graduating?"


Yeah pretty simple.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 2:57 pm to
quote:

If you know those numbers, its a pretty simple calculation.



Well I don't know them all. In particular the earnings after graduation. My current employer isn't going to give me a salary increase just for having the paper. I'm using this as part of a long-term strategy...

I'd be financing ~$20k and I'd likely get a 3.5-5% rate depending on the term selected.
This post was edited on 3/20/17 at 2:58 pm
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32489 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 3:00 pm to
Are you expecting to stay at your current company after graduation, or will you be looking to move elsewhere? How old are you? It really depends on your timeline, IMO.

I would probably do the 44 month program, unless I know for sure that I would have something with a significant salary increase lined up for me when I would graduate.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 3:04 pm to
I'll be 31 when the program begins. And if I am with my current company in 4-5 years it will be because I will have a new role/promotion.
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 6:04 pm to
quote:

My current employer isn't going to give me a salary increase just for having the paper. I'm using this as part of a long-term strategy...


then 44 months makes more sense to me.
Posted by Rust Cohle
Baton rouge
Member since Mar 2014
1944 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 6:22 pm to
I'd say finance it. Or try to make an investment that would cover the spread on interest. You can also write the loan interest off, and your tuition.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 6:34 pm to
quote:

You can also write the loan interest off


We already write off the max allowed with wife's grad school loans.

Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32489 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 7:46 pm to
If you're paying it in cash you can get a 2k per year tax credit.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 8:00 pm to
I believe I'm only eligible for the tax credit with the 22 month program as the 44 is below full time grad student status of 6 hours a module.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32489 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 9:11 pm to
I didn't think of that, I believe you're correct.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24154 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 10:11 pm to
Section 513 of the tax code might be your friend.
Posted by reb13
Member since May 2010
10905 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 7:35 am to
44 months is a long time. I'm not saying you will never get through it but that's a lot of important life between 31-35 to have to be focusing on work and school.
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
6455 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 1:01 pm to
Aside from numbers and interest rates is the MBA really in your best interests? Have you thought about what it will open up for you if anything?
Posted by redstickrun
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2009
67 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 1:23 pm to
Let me second researching 513... You can get way more than the 2k annual education credit if you fall within the scope of an un-reimbursed business expense. Here's a handy little chart to see if you can deduct the whole thing.

This post was edited on 3/21/17 at 1:25 pm
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20461 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 1:27 pm to
Normally I'd be all for paying cash, but 44 months is a lOOONG time. So I'd do one of two things here, I'd save up for a year and then do the 22 months. Get it done in 36 months. Or, I'd do the 22 months.

Your life at age 30 can change drastically in 44 months/ 4 years. No way I'd do a 2 year school over 44 months at that age, it would be WAAAAY to easy for something to happen, you to have to move or stop, and never finish the education when having already paid for part of it.

Knock it out, get it over, save up money, cut your lifestyle, and get it all behind you asap.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32489 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 1:41 pm to
quote:

Section 513 of the tax code might be your friend.


I'll definitely look into this, thanks.
Posted by Stuckinthe90s
Dallas, TX
Member since Apr 2013
2576 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 2:37 pm to
Something you may also want to consider is your current career progression/track within you company.

Many companies such as accounting and law firms use a more or less standard promotion schedule. If yours does it may be worth timing the end of your schooling to come after your promo. That way when you are finishing your program and you are going through the recruiting cycle, you have already maxed out your prior job title for that time (instead of having put in 3 years as a Analyst having yet to make the jump to the next title chain).

I know this isn't practical for 99 out of 100 people. But I think it is a good thing to think about it in terms of doing the 44 instead of 22. If you know you are going to get promoted to a better title, I think it takes you a little further to already have achieved that when you are applying for jobs. Particularly when it comes to applying for a Manager Rotational program which are really popular for people finishing MBAs.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24154 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 8:49 pm to
My program is 20 months and I can promise you 44 would be a slog. No thank you.
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