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Buying a Vehicle Outright

Posted on 1/23/20 at 5:33 pm
Posted by DVinBR
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 1/23/20 at 5:33 pm
First time vehicle purchase (I'm 26 and the vehicle my parents got me when I was 16 is still going has some issues that I'm pretty much done with it). I'm going to buy the vehicle outright, what percentage would you say of yearly income should be the max I should spend? For most cases, at least for down payments, a minimum of ~25%. Should I use this similar 25% rule for buying outright? 25% of pre-tax income maximum purchase?
Posted by tigersfan1989
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 1/23/20 at 5:38 pm to
I think there's plenty out there that is dependable that you should be able to spend max $20K. I'd buy around 2 years old used and pay cash if you're able. After you purchase set aside 250 or a so a month in an account to start saving for the next and enjoy. But, you're going to have some haters out there that say invest the money in the market and don't buy outright.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 1/23/20 at 5:41 pm to
What’s your sheet look like? Assets, debts, etc
Posted by TimeOutdoors
AK
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 1/23/20 at 5:42 pm to
I am all about not spending much either. Wife? Kids? House? 26 is a nice age to be building a nice financial foundation. 20 years from now you are going to wish you had invested more and spent less purchasing a new vehicle. (This is coming from a guy that is 46 and 18 years ago bought a new vehicle).
Posted by DVinBR
Member since Jan 2013
12994 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 5:54 pm to
no wife or kids, only debt is just a house i'm putting extra towards principal on

i can make a $20k payment right now and still have enough for over a year of emergency funds
This post was edited on 1/23/20 at 5:56 pm
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22435 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 6:26 pm to
Spend as little as possible (within reason) on vehicles. Buy something safe, reliable, presentable (won’t embarrass you). Can have your pick of vehicles under 15k that meet those criteria
Posted by iAmBatman
The Batcave
Member since Mar 2011
12382 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 6:27 pm to
Why wouldn’t you finance? I understand you have the cash available but wouldn’t that cash be more useful as an investment and growing in the market vs sitting in a depreciating asset?
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41205 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 6:38 pm to
I'm not going to give you advice on how much to spend, to many variables.


Since you are carrying no debt, why not charge 5K of the sale price on your CC for the miles/points, then pay it off the following month?
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/23/20 at 6:53 pm to
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DVinBR


What's your retirement and investing situation like?
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39584 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 7:43 pm to
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I'm not going to give you advice on how much to spend, to many variables.


shite I will. There's no reason for him to spend over 25k and I'm padding that because people will downvote me for how ridiculous I am with cars.
This post was edited on 1/23/20 at 7:45 pm
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 1/23/20 at 7:53 pm to
Agreed. I’d buy a 12k used car and revisit at time of next car purchase if you want to splurge
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39584 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 8:13 pm to
I was in a similar boat as OP. Dad bought me a car in fall of 2002 senior year of HS. I kept it until 2014. Spent 17k on that car. Most I've spent was 21k. I can afford more but I like money.
This post was edited on 1/23/20 at 8:15 pm
Posted by Doctor Strangelove
Member since Feb 2018
2963 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 9:02 am to
Just curious, what other way is there to purchase a vehicle other than outright? Are you saying as opposed to leasing?

The used luxury market, (3 years old) is a very good place to look as those brands are very cheap these days due to leases being turned in.
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 11:59 am to
Sounds like you’re seeking permission to splash out on a car. It’s your life, but try this thought exercise on for size: decide how much you’d want to spend, max, for a car you really want. Now, make a list of all the other things you could do with that amount of money....take multiple great trips, visit far flung friends, take up a fulfilling hobby, be extra generous to some friends or family members in need, buy art, get new furniture, get a graduate degree, learn to fly a plane......

The world is your oyster, don’t put all your hard earned cash into one thing. Figure out a way to get a good deal for a safe, reliable car that’s well below your max budget, and go enjoy the rest of the cash doing interesting things. Life is too short and the world too large and interesting a place to spend lots on a car and not be out experiencing amazing things.
Posted by saderade
America's City
Member since Jul 2005
25741 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 12:00 pm to
quote:

Just curious, what other way is there to purchase a vehicle other than outrigh
I think he means buy with cash or finance

And it’s hard to answer without more info but I’d look for something slightly used at a low interest rate and for under 25k. Have your loan for 15k or so and invest the difference.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58155 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 12:35 pm to
The market kind of sucks for a $12k vehicle.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
35349 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 5:49 pm to
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The market kind of sucks for a $12k vehicle.


This.

I find that most of the time, people who throw out the advice of "buy a cheap beater and save your money" don't realize that a "cheap beater" will still cost decent coin these days and will probably get you a nasty letter from the VP of HR.


The used car market sucks. If you want something made in the last decade that doesn't already have 6 digits on the ODO, you'll still save over buying new, but it's probably not the savings most of these people are envisioning. The older the car, the higher the interest rate too if you have to finance. The cars in the 8-12k price range are actual beaters that probably haven't been well maintained, or they will be at an age/mileage that maintenance and wear items are starting to pile up.


A second thing to consider, that I think so many people overlook, is the safety advances over the last 5 or so years. Is your health/life, or the health/lives of your family worth saving a 5 or 6 grand? I'd much rather spend a little bit more upfront with peace of mind that me and my family will have the most up to date safety features.
This post was edited on 1/24/20 at 5:51 pm
Posted by Drizzt
Cimmeria
Member since Aug 2013
12900 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 12:11 am to
You are 26 and looks like you have made a lot of good decisions to this point. Buy a car you like that’s under 25k. You can drive a new or 1 year old car for the next 10 years. Don’t finance it over 3 years. Shop around for a low rate and check if your insurance company has its own bank. State Farm has great rates usually. Enjoy being in your 20s. Things start falling apart after 35.
Posted by iAmBatman
The Batcave
Member since Mar 2011
12382 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 7:47 am to
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Don’t finance it over 3 years.


Why 3 years?

The lack of sound financial advice on this board sometimes is quite concerning.
This post was edited on 1/25/20 at 8:06 am
Posted by Drizzt
Cimmeria
Member since Aug 2013
12900 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 11:40 pm to
Because if you have to finance a depreciating asset for 5 years you should buy something cheaper?

I just bought a new car and financed 3 years. I make double the payment so it will be paid off much sooner but have flexibility to pay less if I had a drop in income or emergency situation. You don’t think that’s a good idea?
This post was edited on 1/25/20 at 11:43 pm
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