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re: Bonds/Retirement question

Posted on 7/16/24 at 7:43 am to
Posted by bovine1
Walnut Ridge,AR via Tallulah,LA
Member since Dec 2004
1353 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 7:43 am to
Wellington is 65/35 stocks and bonds. The bonds are a mix of maturities and types mostly rated A and AA according to Morningstar. Vanguard says they aim for an intermediate duration and right now according to the Morningstar chart the average duration falls on the short end of intermediate (3-5 years). Wellesley Income is 65/35 bonds over stocks. I have owned it at times and always been happy with it. I've never owned Wellington personally. Good investing to all.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91302 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 7:44 am to
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Wellington is 65/35 stocks and bonds. The bonds are a mix of maturities and types mostly rated A and AA according to Morningstar. Vanguard says they aim for an intermediate duration and right now according to the Morningstar chart the average duration falls on the short end of intermediate (3-5 years)


Yeah I assumed it was Wellington which is how I knew it wasn’t short term treasuries.
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4292 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 9:41 am to
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It is funny you say that. That day, when the financial group said someone around my age would need 3 million to retire, Afterwards, I was talking to our CFO (who was my boss), and I was like "There is no way I will hit that mark". He broke it down very well for me - first off, he said the type of people that use that financial firm need 3 million - I most likely would not.


Something similar happened where I used to work (and happily retired from about a year ago - I was 58). Almost as if the financial advisor had memorized a script, he also said something along those lines. So, me being me (and figuring that he was just there to hawk his company’s mutual fund products) I asked, “$3 million (let’s say) in what asset classes?”

“I could have $3 million in debt free land that produces no income, $3 million in rental real estate that kicks off $100K in net income per year, $3 million in non-dividend paying stocks, $3 million in equity products or debt instruments that yield 3.5%, etc., etc. So where does your “needed asset” figure come from or what does it refer to?”

It had been awhile, but the look he gave me (in that room full of people) reminded me of the look that teachers would give me in high school when I’d ask them to give a deeper explanation of some generalized, blanket statement they’d made. Most, like this guy, just got defensive.

Like I said, I made the decision to retire from corporate life and enter semi-retirement (I still run my index options business) when I determined that the income produced from my assets and/or efforts would financially support me… it had virtually nothing to do with the net value of those assets.
This post was edited on 7/16/24 at 10:39 am
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
23312 posts
Posted on 7/17/24 at 7:08 am to
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88 and on an Internet forum. Impressive. My dad is only 78 and can barely answer his iPhone.


This, no shite, that’s impressive. Hopefully ole baw is on the SEC rant talking shite about meeting aggies at sonic
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
20824 posts
Posted on 7/17/24 at 8:26 am to
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I will turn 59.5 at the end of January 2025 so I am in the final stretch of the tough part right now


What are you doing for health insurance until you are Medicare eligible? If you have a working spouse who can provide it, bonus.
Posted by Drizzt
Cimmeria
Member since Aug 2013
14881 posts
Posted on 7/17/24 at 8:55 am to
I’m interested in how people get these “working spouses?” Mine only has hobby side gigs and spends $300 a month on nails and lashes.
Posted by wareagle7298
Birmingham
Member since Dec 2013
3552 posts
Posted on 7/17/24 at 9:14 am to
Don't get me wrong - mine works, but Amazon might as well set up a distribution center in our house.
Posted by CharlesUFarley
Daphne, AL
Member since Jan 2022
894 posts
Posted on 7/17/24 at 12:18 pm to
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What are you doing for health insurance until you are Medicare eligible? If you have a working spouse who can provide it, bonus.


I am using Obamacare. Since I lost my job during the Covid era it was free for a couple of years and because I can leverage my Roth contributions, I am able to keep my taxable income low enough so that it is the best and lowest cost option for me.

I am single/no kids. Easier for me than most. I took the HSA option to try to build more assets for retirement.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13475 posts
Posted on 7/17/24 at 2:50 pm to
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I am single/no kids. Easier for me than most. I took the HSA option to try to build more assets for retirement.
Oh, that explains why it was so much easier for you.
Posted by nolaks
Member since Dec 2013
1286 posts
Posted on 7/17/24 at 4:01 pm to
I'm not touching corporate debt if a simple tbill will yield north of 5%
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