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re: Bear market rally

Posted on 7/24/22 at 11:21 am to
Posted by rintintin
Life is Life
Member since Nov 2008
16978 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 11:21 am to
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The reason the 75- 80% myth persists is because only 10-20% of option contracts are exercised.


I agree. The vast majority of people aren't buying options with the expectation of exercising. I don't know why that fact is relevant in these discussions.
Posted by Decisions
Member since Mar 2015
1605 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 11:46 am to
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You have to ignore the fact that 60%-65% of option contracts that are closed out prior to expiration


This is because of the dirty secret the options bears don’t want to talk about: a significant portion of options are bought simply to mitigate preexisting risk. They were never expected to make money.

If we were able to gather data on and analyze the proportion of contracts that hit vs. miss which actually had intentions of making money I would bet the ratio would be much more palatable.

But most people would rather stick their head in the sand and say it’s impossible to predict the market so why should you even try. Why would I bet big on an individual stock at a 2x P/E ratio that has good fundamentals? You can’t predict what it will do! Just DCA in! Buy the dip!

Weak.
This post was edited on 7/24/22 at 11:48 am
Posted by JimMorrison
The Peninsula
Member since May 2012
20747 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 3:05 pm to
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Yes, I am a trader. Not an investor.


What are your positions? Must be very risky to be this worried.
Posted by Guntoter1
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2020
1582 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 8:00 pm to
quote:

What are your positions? Must be very risky to be this worried


Yes it is very very risky.
Vexax
Asts
Dkng
Posted by JLivermore
Wendover
Member since Dec 2015
1690 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 8:34 pm to
The best trading advice I can give you is, you’re going to be wrong a lot. Don’t waste energy calling your own shots, just find the worst, most FOMOy traders in the chat room who lack self control and fade him until they go bust.

Treat the trading room like an online poker table, you should have a book of fadeable traders, the sectors they’re biased towards (crypto, pot , ev, etc) , and setups and situations where they tend to buy the tops of crazy moves.

This post was edited on 7/24/22 at 8:36 pm
Posted by JLivermore
Wendover
Member since Dec 2015
1690 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 8:43 pm to
PS take your FOMO out back and shoot it. You’re a trader, there’s a new setup every 10 minutes. FOMO is for crypto kids and meme stock traders.
This post was edited on 7/24/22 at 8:45 pm
Posted by bayoumuscle21
St. George
Member since Jan 2012
5012 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 9:13 pm to
It was a gap fill
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4292 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 9:28 pm to
quote:

Indicators? Lol , my gut


Upvote for being honest.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
32766 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 9:48 pm to
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indicators

Use MACD. Look for multiple time periods converging simultaneously. 1D, 5D, 1M. If buying options, buy assuming your timing is off by a week or two to give it time to watch the play through
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
16056 posts
Posted on 7/25/22 at 5:42 am to
As an investor, I welcome periods like we’re in since I’m going to be a net buyer for the next 5-10 years.

Any trading that I do is based on the Investors business daily Leaderboard program.
Posted by Lgrnwd
Member since Jan 2018
8434 posts
Posted on 7/25/22 at 8:49 am to
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you should have a book of fadeable traders,


Husss

End of book
This post was edited on 7/25/22 at 8:50 am
Posted by texas tortilla
houston
Member since Dec 2015
4056 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 8:00 pm to
LINK interesting video I ran across today.
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