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re: Average mortgage rates now at 7.5%

Posted on 10/1/26 at 7:23 am to
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 10/1/26 at 7:23 am to
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Won't be any price crash. You are right. I'm seeing large areas of land cleared for neighborhoods but construction stalled. Not sure if it's due to costs to build or no takers on buying. Can't build more at these costs it seems



I recently changed my insurance from Allstate to American Family (through Costco). American Family through their costco plan only insures the REBUILD value of the home, not just what its worth if you sold it today (what I'm used to). I was like oh okay, so probably a little less than what it would sell for right?

They insured for $738k, the comps in my townhouse neighborhood for my house range from about $400k-$430k. I was like "I'm pretty sure you overshot by a LOT to rebuild a $400k market value house at $738k"...nope, said building costs are just insane now (And I think they said tear down is included in that $738k which isnt cheap either).

Maybe why we never see new "affordable" housing any more seems like
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 10/1/26 at 7:31 am to
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It’ll be worth it but I’ll be itching to refinance the second rates do come down


Mortgage rates aren't going below 5% until the 10yr yield gets back down around 3%-3.5%.

The 10yr isn't yield isn't going that low until we see at least some of the following:

-some form of fiscal responsibility from Congress to reign in deficit spending (not going to happen)
-a surge in foreign purchases, boosting demand (can happen, but will likely become more and more influenced by the previous point)
-a significant multi-quarter slowdown in manufacturing and consumer spending (ie: GDP slowing, possibly even a light recession - at this point this primarily depends on how long the Iran/Hormuz issue lasts)
-job losses (see above)
-EFFR cut back down (probably into the 2%-2.5% range, will likely not happen until inflation has been down around/below the 2% target range for at least 3-6 months and looks to be stable at that level)
-fuel prices plummet due to the Iran/Hormuz issue getting resolved (no eta yet, but hopefully soon)

The Iran deal (both the reality and the hype) has the greatest potential to continue or resolve the issue. The sooner a deal is reached, the better.

All that said, if we get an Iran deal by the end of November, you're probably still going to have to buy with a 6%-7% rate but the deficit issue (more pointedly, the compounding effect due to inflation) is likely to keep rates above 5% for a very long time.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
30349 posts
Posted on 10/1/26 at 9:13 am to
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nope, said building costs are just insane now


Bought our house in 2015. Small, 1950's era house on an acre in the middle of the city. Nothing special. Added on this year, essentially doubling the size. It cost twice as much to add-on than it cost to buy the house 11 years ago. If you remove the value of the land, which is not insignificant, the equation gets even worse. It wasn't even a complex addition. Just extended out in one direction with mid-range materials/finishes. Building costs are indeed insane.

We could move closer to our existing house but with significantly more costs, we could move further out and away from the life we enjoy and but maintain current costs, or we could find the middle ground and add-on.
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Vero Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2005
28428 posts
Posted on 10/1/26 at 9:14 am to
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Only prices that will significantly drop will be those in a rush to sell. If any market drop occurs, it’ll only be temporary until rates drop and they’ll recover. The supply isn’t there to drop prices drastically.


I'm renting, and looking for the right time to buy. I will be a cash buyer, so I'm not worried about interest rates for me.

What I see in South Florida:

1.) Prices are all over the place. In the same neighborhood, I see a house for $800k and a very similar house a block or two away for $550k. One is a seller who believes their house is worth top dollar from 2 years ago, and the other is a motivated seller. So bargains are out there.

2.) I see a lower than normal inventory, and it is my understanding that people are waiting before putting their house on the market. That could be because they want interest rates to come down before buying a new house, or it could be that they are not getting the price they want out of their current house.

3.) I see a lot of houses going on the market and then getting pulled off the market after a month or two. I believe these are people who are waiting for a better time to sell, or are willing to rent their home out for a year or so before selling.

4.) This is from my realtor, but the buyers are being picky, and the houses that are selling are the ones that have been tastefully updated and are turnkey. They are no longer selling everything at listing or above, like they did 3 years ago. Today, the buyers are wanting either a bargain, or something they can move into without touching a thing.

Altogether, prices are coming down, but if you have a luxury home in the $2M plus range, prices are pretty stable, as long as you have a newer or recently renovated home. Luxury fixer uppers are commanding some of the steepest discounts, though.
This post was edited on 10/1/26 at 9:17 am
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
34046 posts
Posted on 10/1/26 at 9:22 am to
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Mortgage rates aren't going below 5% until the 10yr yield gets back down around 3%-3.5%.

Yea I agree, but I’ll happily refinance at 5.5 if I start at 7.0+. That still chunks down your total loan and your monthly payment
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
34046 posts
Posted on 10/1/26 at 9:24 am to
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What I see in South Florida:

True South Florida or Jax area? Based on your username, I wouldn’t call Jax South Florida though.

Actual S Florida has the home insurance issues that most of the country does not have, and is likely putting much more pressure on the market there
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Vero Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2005
28428 posts
Posted on 10/1/26 at 9:25 am to
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True South Florida or Jax area?


I haven't lived in Jacksonville for 13 years. I'm in Vero Beach, now.

Rates aren't that bad where I am. Most of the real problems are on the barrier island or in flood zones. Vero Beach is just far enough north that we don't usually get hit by hurricanes directly. Hurricanes usually go up the coast towards the Carolinas or they hit on the southwest side of the state and hit us from the west AFTER crossing the state. We did take a direct hit in '24, for the first time in many decades (Milton), but damage was not that bad.
This post was edited on 10/1/26 at 9:32 am
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
45907 posts
Posted on 10/1/26 at 11:53 am to
Excited for my property taxes to be lower this year.
Posted by Bob Sacamano 89
Member since Apr 2023
206 posts
Posted on 10/1/26 at 12:03 pm to
I agree. When you look at the numbers the money borrowed is much more important than the rate. So for someone like myself in the market sitting on what I would consider a decent down payment ( at least for me), I would much prefer a house $100 less with a 7.5% vs 100k more at 5.5%.
I want to borrow the least amount as possible.
Posted by Free888
Member since Oct 2019
3532 posts
Posted on 10/1/26 at 6:08 pm to
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Sales are tanking but look at home prices. They’re still holding up and not coming down much at all.


Wife and I are waiting for the drop. Our house is paid off and we want to move closer to the grandkids. Hopefully in the drivers seat come early next year.

Regarding rates, I’m surprised the government hasn’t looked into some type of incentive program that would encourage “blended” mortgages. For example, assume you’re currently in a $400k home with $200k remaining at 3%. You want to buy a larger home ($800k) and need to borrow $400k (for easy math assume at 7%). If there were a way to roll the existing mortgage into the new mortgage, your loan would effectively be $400k at 5%. This would free up lower priced homes for new homeowners, and keep the McMansions selling. Otherwise people will just sit on their houses.
Posted by RetiredSaintsLsuFan
NW Arkansas
Member since Jun 2020
2704 posts
Posted on 10/2/26 at 9:47 am to
This would work for me.
Posted by StreamsOfWhiskey
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Jun 2013
962 posts
Posted on 10/2/26 at 7:20 pm to
I need prop values to drop in Coeur d’Alene, ID. So far not seeing it.
Posted by LSUShock
Kansas
Member since Jun 2014
5808 posts
Posted on 10/2/26 at 8:33 pm to
I bought my house at 5.85% and people told me I was an idiot after rates were down to 2.5-3%.

Buy the house you can afford at the time you can afford it.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
79049 posts
Posted on 10/2/26 at 9:03 pm to
The best time to be real is estate is 20 years ago. The second best time is now.
Posted by boomtapp
Houston, Tejas
Member since Nov 2007
789 posts
Posted on 10/2/26 at 10:17 pm to
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This post was edited on 10/2/26 at 10:25 pm
Posted by boomtapp
Houston, Tejas
Member since Nov 2007
789 posts
Posted on 10/2/26 at 10:18 pm to
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Coeur d’Alene, ID


Stay away. I’m looking too.
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