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Another just starting out thread.... 24 year old

Posted on 6/5/19 at 10:23 am
Posted by JohnDoe00
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2019
814 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 10:23 am
I graduated college in December, got a job and bought a new truck when I had a perfectly good older truck. Note is about $500 and pay off is $28,000 currently. I recently found the money board and started thinking about and researching how to set up my financial success. I am a single guy and currently I make about $57,000 a year before taxes. I recently moved and I am collecting $500 a week for living expenses from my company (non-taxed), this will end at the new year. I am renting cheap for $600 dollars a month and plan to stay mobile for work so I am not looking into buying a house anytime soon, but would like to start saving for a down payment. I also have a good chunk in checking/savings of $12,000.

Basically I want to start putting in my 401k, start a roth, boost my savings, and start investing in some stocks as well. I have come up with a few different options.

1. Just enjoy my new truck with the lesson that expensive vehicles are dumb and just pay the minimum monthly note while I save/invest slowly.

2. Attack my car payments aggressively to pay off truck sooner and invest later.

3. Sell my truck and buy an older reliable vehicle with cash to get rid of monthly note and free up cash now. (Truck is worth 38-40k private seller.)


Thanks in advance.
Posted by lnomm34
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2009
12610 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 10:29 am to
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I make about $57,000 a year before taxes


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Truck is worth 38-40k


Yikes. . .

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Sell my truck and buy an older reliable vehicle with cash to get rid of monthly note and free up cash now.


This is what I would suggest. Vehicles don't help build wealth. As much as I would love a nice truck, I drive a four year old car that I bought from a lease turn-in.

At your age, the decisions you make now will have a big impact on your financial life going forward. Start investing NOW as much as you can and don't back off.
Posted by sacrathetic
Member since May 2019
618 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 10:33 am to
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Posted by lsujro
north of the wall
Member since Jul 2007
3921 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 10:38 am to
if your job is pretty stable, i would keep the truck and learn the lesson. if you sell now, you take all of the financial hit now. you can easily swing a $500 note given your minimal other expenses. the interest is basically insignificant.

you've got a great start on saving. it's too bad you didn't start a month or so ago when you could still max out your 2018 roth. i would start making monthly contributions of whatever is needed to max it by end of year. if your company has a 401k match, meet that first before roth if you cannot afford both. then excess cash goes to your emergency/house fund. then 401k if there's any room left.

as much as you can, automate these contributions to savings/retirement. you miss it less if it doesn't touch your checking account.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 10:42 am to
HEALTH SAVINGS ACCOUNT
Posted by sacrathetic
Member since May 2019
618 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 10:47 am to
nm
This post was edited on 5/21/20 at 2:04 pm
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 10:55 am to
That flow chart is awesome. I would only move up the HSA but that’s just me.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24149 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 11:04 am to
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sacrathetic



Post of the year so far. This workflow answers most of the 'need to get my financial house in order...what should I do' questions.

My only slight push is I might move max HSA up one process flow up given the tax advantages, still have access to use those funds medically, and how it basically functions as a retirement vehicle over the long-term.
Posted by JohnDoe00
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2019
814 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 11:07 am to
Flowchart is very helpful I saved it. I really appreciate the responses.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24149 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 11:11 am to
quote:

Basically I want to start putting in my 401k, start a roth, boost my savings, and start investing in some stocks as well. I have come up with a few different options.

1. Just enjoy my new truck with the lesson that expensive vehicles are dumb and just pay the minimum monthly note while I save/invest slowly.


I recommend this. You'll just eat your losses if you sell it. This board is overly conservative on autos...basically a viewpoint of it only takes you A to B and drive the cheapest thing possible it until the wheels fall off.

You've learned the lesson, now just don't repeat it in the future. But also, enjoy yourself since you are young and clearly like having a nice truck.
Posted by SLafourche07
Member since Feb 2008
9928 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 11:30 am to
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Post of the year so far.




You must have missed my "Sharp elbows. WNH." post on the OT. I'll forgive you.
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 1:48 pm to
Lots of good advice already, but missing a key part: earmark some percentage of your funds as travel/life experience money. Your truck purchase taught you about the fleeting value of things to improve your life, now you can go out and learn its opposite about experiences. Travel will broaden your mind, expose you to many different POVs and ways of living, and also enhance your life in ways you can't yet imagine.

So get out there and start living, rather than just working & saving & dreaming of some magical distant future where you do interesting things. You're only 24 once: go climb a mountain, or learn SCUBA, or whatever it is that intrigues you. Hike to Machu Picchu, or go drink pastis in a cafe in Marseilles. Don't just settle for an easy, cheap cruise....buy a backpack, spend a week bumming around Spain, or go drive a camper van around New Zealand. Your employer probably has PTO, don't just pile it up, use it.
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
50344 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 2:40 pm to
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1. Just enjoy my new truck with the lesson that expensive vehicles are dumb and just pay the minimum monthly note while I save/invest slowly.



The damage is done and for a single person making 57,000 a year it won't kill you.
Posted by Popths
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
3965 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 7:00 pm to
Get the book The Total Money Makeover by Dave Ramsey. Easy read. Great advice. Get on board early. Nothing like being debt free. Book covers every angle.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119158 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 7:06 pm to
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2. Attack my car payments aggressively to pay off truck sooner and invest later.

Posted by saderade
America's City
Member since Jul 2005
25737 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 8:00 pm to
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Get the book The Total Money Makeover by Dave Ramsey. Easy read. Great advice. Get on board early. Nothing like being debt free. Book covers every angle
That flow chart beats any Dave Ramsey advice.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72649 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 8:26 pm to
Dave Ramsey caters to the ignorant. He was destroyed here the other day with some
Stupid arse advice somebody brought up. Wish I could recall what the exact argument was. Regardless Ramsey looked like a moron with his advice on the subject.
Posted by Azazello
Member since Sep 2011
3182 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 8:39 pm to
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JohnDoe00


Screw Dave Ramsey.


Read "I will teach you to be rich" by Ramit Sethi and set yourself on the right path. I highly recommend this book. The second edition came out a few weeks ago and I sent a bunch of them to family and friends. I believe it is the best personal financial planning book out there.

This post was edited on 6/5/19 at 8:56 pm
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 8:43 pm to
Totally agree
Posted by hottub
Member since Dec 2012
3336 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 9:12 pm to
What is the rate on the truck?


I would not have bought the truck but you did. 57k is plenty of money for you as a single guy with little debt, assuming truck note is it.


If the rate on the truck is low, leave it be and take advantage of the Roth and 401k.
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