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re: After being fully invested several years I got out this morning

Posted on 6/7/19 at 8:07 pm to
Posted by tiger chaser
Birmingham Ala
Member since Feb 2008
7721 posts
Posted on 6/7/19 at 8:07 pm to
Being all cash is not smart. At least put it in Money Market
Posted by tiger81
Brentwood, TN.
Member since Jan 2008
21009 posts
Posted on 6/7/19 at 9:22 pm to
If you miss the best 25-30 days in the market in a year, you're toast.
Posted by Mikey P
Gulfport, MS
Member since May 2017
536 posts
Posted on 6/8/19 at 9:55 am to
Good morning fellow money talkers. I'm ready to be blasted again.

This morning I decided to look at my performance over the last couple years. In April 2017 I picked 5 Vanguard etf's and basically set it and forget it. Funds were S&P 500, Mid Cap, Small Cap, Developed Markets and Emerging Markets. Tickers VOO, IVOO, VIOO, VEA and VWO. I should have been a better steward of my investments. The only real winner was my S&P etf. The others are either down or up less than 10%.

I've gone back to Vanguard and am looking at different ETF's to get in to. I'm looking at both YTD returns as well as going back to 10 years. It looks like real estate (VNQ), consumer staples (VDC) and utilities (VPU) have done well.

However, last time I went with a sector was the healthcare sector fund a couple years ago and I got torched in that one.

Blast Away!!!
This post was edited on 6/8/19 at 9:58 am
Posted by bogart
Member since Dec 2013
1346 posts
Posted on 6/8/19 at 10:05 am to
Let us know when you get back in the market so I can get out.
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
4884 posts
Posted on 6/8/19 at 10:10 am to
I think you should definitely be paying someone to do this for you.

You’re the prime example of a DIY investor who lets his emotions dictate his financial decisions.
Posted by Azazello
Member since Sep 2011
3228 posts
Posted on 6/8/19 at 10:15 am to
I want to short everything this guy invests in and fade every time he gets out of the market.

Guaranteed to make money.
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
89236 posts
Posted on 6/8/19 at 10:26 am to
quote:

last time I went with a sector was the healthcare sector fund a couple years ago and I got torched in that one.




i made good returns on that fund. most others here did also. sounds like you did something wrong which would not surprise me.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
32742 posts
Posted on 6/8/19 at 10:41 am to
Sounds like you suck at investing so I’m not sure why you are here and not asking for advice
Posted by TigerinOkieHell
Oklahoma City
Member since Oct 2010
2872 posts
Posted on 6/8/19 at 11:34 am to
Okay so not going to blast you but just want to be honest. I think you need to seriously consider a couple of things.

First you need to determine how willing you are to research investing strategy, current market/economic trends and/or individual companies (if you are not just index investing).

If you don’t want to spend a few hours a week minimum doing this you should heavily consider using an advisor. Specifically a low fee robo advisor that will allocate your funds to index funds based on your risk tolerance (I would recommend looking into M1, Betterment, or wealthfront). There is nothing wrong with doing this, I think for many people this is the best way to prevent letting emotion rule decisions.

If you do want to spend the time, I recommend doing some research into different strategies and come up with what investment strategy fits your and your risk tolerance. Once you know what you want your portfolio to do, invest only what you are willing to lose for a while. See how your strategy does and be willing to adjust it (not fully exit) if it isn’t what you want. As an example, someone with a moderate tolerance for risk may consider investing in 70% stocks and 30% bonds. From there they select a percentage to US stocks, international stocks, government bonds, and corporate bonds. Once you feel more confident in your strategy add more money. Always know though that you must have the gut strength to see it lose money and stay the course (have confidence)!

Just my two cents.
This post was edited on 6/8/19 at 11:36 am
Posted by Pendulum
Member since Jan 2009
7922 posts
Posted on 6/8/19 at 12:49 pm to
Annnnndddd trump suspends mexico tariffs. Monday is gonna be fun!
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
21374 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 7:41 am to
Just go to one of the free robo investor services and set your risk tolerance. You'll be much happier and probably do a lot better.
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
86565 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 9:18 am to
Damn man, this has not been good for you.

Draft a strategy going forward and wait for the next Trump tweet to buy in whatever allocation you give the stock market.
Posted by gpburdell
ATL
Member since Jun 2015
1579 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 9:18 am to
quote:

Blast Away!!!


Past performance is no guarantee of future results

Posted by Costanza
Member since May 2011
3264 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 7:34 am to
I’ve thought about this dude almost every day.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61281 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 8:16 am to


Yep
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 8:32 am to
7 day winning streak
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
4884 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 8:59 am to
“Hello, E-Trade? Yes, I saw the market was up 6 days in a row. I’d like to get back into stocks.”
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 9:06 am to
There are some crazy stats that show if you missed so many of the best days over so many years what it does to your return.

Here is one from Putnam

There are also charts showing if you missed the worst days. Good luck with timing that.
Posted by seawolf06
NH
Member since Oct 2007
8159 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 11:55 am to
quote:

I went to all cash this morning. I'm usually optimistic about the market but I think the wheels may be coming off for the foreseeable future and i don't want to take the ride down any lower.


Oops

quote:

The stock market is closing in on its all-time high


CNBC
Posted by msu202020
Member since Feb 2011
4316 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 2:53 pm to
Nailed it, good job.
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