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65% / 35% Equity to Fixed Income - is this bottom

Posted on 1/5/23 at 11:19 am
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
42055 posts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 11:19 am
43 years old is it time to buy a little more apple, Microsoft or Tesla?

I really struggle with keeping powder dry. Is it time to fire?
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
82059 posts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 11:21 am to
You have 20 years for the market to work for you. Don't time it
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
42055 posts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 11:23 am to
So you think asset allocation is right?

I have always been more aggressive

Also was talking small move not big one
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
82059 posts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 11:24 am to
Depends on your risk profile. I'm behind you at 34 and have maybe 2% in fixed income through a target date fund in my 401k. I have zero desire to put anything into fixed income until I'm a lot older.

Others may disagree.
Posted by hikingfan
Member since Jun 2013
1757 posts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 12:01 pm to
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I have zero desire to put anything into fixed income until I'm a lot older.

What is a lot older in this instance? 45? 50? Or older?
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
21422 posts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 12:08 pm to
You are asking about timing the market. several decades of data shows not to do it.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
42055 posts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 12:20 pm to
quote:

You are asking about timing the market. several decades of data shows not to do it.


Some what but if I was in a target funds they would reallocate periodically to achieve target asset allocation. So really asset allocation then timing question
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
21422 posts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 12:22 pm to
quote:

Some what but if I was in a target funds they would reallocate periodically to achieve target asset allocation. So really asset allocation then timing question


Time based asset allocations are not related to timing the market. Completely different.

The OP asked "is this the bottom?" That isn't asset allocation based on a retirement time period. That is a question about when to change investments based on the market and not a timeline.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24813 posts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 12:23 pm to
No, you are asking a market timing question. Asset allocation funds do not market time. They move funds around based on age not market conditions.

ETA: A minute late.
This post was edited on 1/5/23 at 12:24 pm
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
58529 posts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 12:30 pm to
This will look like the top in a couple months
Posted by KillTheGophers
Member since Jan 2016
6748 posts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 12:30 pm to
35% is way tooo high for your age.

Fixed income has too much downside risk should rates continue climb

Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
42055 posts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 12:30 pm to
So let me redirect

65/35 seems conservative
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
42055 posts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 12:32 pm to
quote:

Fixed income has too much downside risk should rates continue climb


Nothing more than a year all with YTM greater than 4%

I have some stuff releasing in March. So I will not sell early be market timer
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24813 posts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 12:34 pm to
quote:

65/35 seems conservative


Probably unless you are really timid. Although I think bonds are setting themselves up to be fairly attractive on an appreciation basis. This is only my opinion, but I think we are much closer to the top of rates than the bottom. Again, everything I say is only my idiotic opinion.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
42055 posts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 12:40 pm to
quote:

Probably unless you are really timid.


I used to be 100% equity never understood bond funds. Once I learned how to buy them myself game changer. I am just trying to eek out 8% a year. 35% at guaranteed 4% takes away my upside but seems like a good step forward.

I guess this will work itself out as my bonds mature I can redeploy based on circumstances
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
72971 posts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 1:45 pm to
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I'm behind you at 34 and have maybe 2% in fixed income through a target date fund in my 401k.
Statistically, that 2% might as well be zero.

That's silliness from the Fund Manager.

Possibly there's a requirement from his higher-ups or procedurally to be able to access those investments going forward to maintain some (albeit tiny) stake in them.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24813 posts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 1:59 pm to
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Statistically, that 2% might as well be zero.


Probably cash to pay fees or something. I doubt it is 2% in intermediate term bonds.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
44205 posts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 3:55 pm to
I bought Microsoft today
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
82059 posts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 4:13 pm to
Target date fund is 10% bonds but it is 2% of my entire portfolio. I redirected my 401k contributions to other investments when I learned more about finances
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135725 posts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 7:05 pm to
quote:

65/35 seems conservative
FWIW, an old adage is you should invest a bond percentage similar in number to your age. Bond ROI has been so poor for 10-15 years that folks have fallen away from traditionaL recs.
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