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2018 ytd 401k rates of return thus far- post them along with allocation

Posted on 8/8/18 at 10:51 am
Posted by 3morereps
The Gym
Member since Jun 2015
6735 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 10:51 am
6.64% as of yesterday's close.

Allocation is:

60% S&P Index
20% international index - this is hurtimg me
10% small-cap index
10% mid-cap index
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84610 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 12:33 pm to
It's impossible to compare individual situations since newer employees' 401ks are so heavily influenced by contributions.

That being said, 8.18%.

13.0% domestic mid cap
26.5% domestic small cap
47.0% domestic large cap
13.5% international (mostly large cap)

I changed my allocations slightly at the end of February.
Posted by Skeezer
Member since Apr 2017
2296 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 1:28 pm to
12% my 401k
Morgan Stanley growth fund
Vanguard small value

7% wife’s 401k
JP Morgan equity income
Fidelity blue chip growth
Fidelity international index
Fidelity Extended market

19% Ira 1
Morgan growth fund
Amazon
LRCX
TDOC (just bought today)

6% Ira 2
A vanguard target date fund.
Posted by SEC. 593
Chicago
Member since Aug 2012
4040 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 1:36 pm to
10.16%

55% domestic large cap
19% domestic small cap
14% mid cap speciality
12% domestic mid cap
Posted by Leonard
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2014
4254 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 1:44 pm to
+4.37% YTD overall

Allocation

62% Fidelity Total Market Index (+8.37% YTD)
38% Fidelity International Index (-0.85% YTD)

Will re-shuffle to 60/40 domestic/intl at the end of the year.
Posted by KillTheGophers
Member since Jan 2016
6209 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 3:59 pm to
10.52%

QQQ 100%
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84610 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 4:08 pm to
, why did my post get a couple downvotes?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84610 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 4:09 pm to
quote:

QQQ 100%



That's a pretty fancy option in a 401k. Nice.
Posted by GeauxMariners
BR
Member since Jan 2010
2322 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 4:09 pm to
28%

100% CTAS
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84610 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 4:15 pm to
quote:

100% CTAS


What a run they've had. 22% annualized over the last 10 years. Damn.
Posted by TheWiz
Third World, LA
Member since Aug 2007
11672 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 4:19 pm to
I'll play...

8.10%

75.96% in Large Cap
14.56% in Asset Allocation (this was the best way to get INT exposure at a reasonable fee
9.48 % in Bonds
This post was edited on 8/8/18 at 4:22 pm
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
82010 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 4:35 pm to
My 401k Used to be all in on a target fund, split it this year and invested in stocks that I believe in long term....mirrors the QQQ minus some of the health care stuff they have

Posted by tigersnipen
Member since Dec 2006
2085 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 4:38 pm to
Not as good as many of you all. Through 7/31 I only had YTD 2.84% personal rate of return

Asset Allocation:

28.92% - Large Blend
26.6% - Foreign Large Blend
13.27% - Foreign Small/Mid Growth
12.59% - Small Blend
12.27% - Mid-Cap Blend
6.32% - Real Estate
This post was edited on 8/8/18 at 4:39 pm
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84610 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 4:55 pm to
quote:

14.56% in Asset Allocation (this was the best way to get INT exposure at a reasonable fee


Is it a fund of funds? Regardless, I wonder how much international exposure you're getting for the overall expense. If it's 20%, for example, you might be better off just putting 3% (20% * 15% allocated) directly in a higher cost international fund and the other 12% in your stock and bond funds.

Just a thought.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 5:52 pm to
Do any of you have 401ks that let you buy individual stocks instead of all these fee based mutual funds??

I don't understand these plans that offer like 20 funds and then some people buy them all. I looked at a company that had a true 401K plan and it was with Principal. They had like 25 Principal funds employees had bought in the plan. There was $14million in the entire plan. That agent for Principal was making a FORTUNE off of that plan. Not a single fund in the plan had performed better than the S&P 500.

If you going to buy a fund just by a S&P index fund or the Qs if your plan will let you with very low fees and be done with it.

I much rather a few holdings of stock than any fund.
This post was edited on 8/8/18 at 5:56 pm
Posted by RoyalWe
Prairieville, LA
Member since Mar 2018
3102 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 9:34 pm to
17.2% as of today's close.

Allocation is:

26% Small/Mid Cap ETFs (IJR, VEXAX)
17% Leveraged x2 Mid Cap ETF (MVV)
25% Leveraged x3 Nasdaq 100 ETF (TQQQ)
32% Bond Funds (SPAB)

ETA: Full disclosure -- the majority of my portfolio is rollover IRA which allows me to invest in whatever I want. Were I limited to my current employer's 401k my return would be 8.3% YTD.
This post was edited on 8/8/18 at 9:40 pm
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
82010 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 9:41 pm to
quote:

Do any of you have 401ks that let you buy individual stocks instead of all these fee based mutual funds??
mine does. but the fees are ridiculous (100/year for the brokerage acct, $7/trade of stocks, $25/trade of mutual fund/ETF) so you better know what you're doing. But it's worth it considering the limited options they offer.
Posted by Dellort
Member since Jun 2014
550 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 10:45 pm to
I’m able to buy stocks in mine as well with a TD Ameritrade account. .30% fee.

24% YTD

Allocation:
86% US Large Cap stocks
14% Cash Fixed Rate (2.75%)
Posted by Dandaman
Louisiana
Member since May 2017
703 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 12:05 am to
I think because you said contributions count toward RoR
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84610 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 7:12 am to
quote:


I think because you said contributions count toward RoR


They skew it.

If you've got a $300k 401k to start the year and you're maxing it out, only so much money is buying the "dips" since the pullback from January highs.

If you've got a $10k 401k and you're putting in $5k/yr, a much larger chunk of your account bought in at lower levels throughout the year.
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