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re: Yes, there is way too much emphasis on being National Seed (stats inside!)
Posted on 5/17/17 at 11:08 am to Broski
Posted on 5/17/17 at 11:08 am to Broski
quote:Seems a bit extreme...
Anybody saying a nat seed isn't important needs to be shot.
quote:
Like seriously, you deserve to be shot in the foot
Ok, that I can get behind.
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Posted on 5/17/17 at 11:08 am to clamdip
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btw, that LSU has burned a lot of mental energy in recent years making a late charge to get a national seed
...wut?
#ShotInTheFoot
Posted on 5/17/17 at 11:09 am to jlntiger
quote:
I have been saying this in a little different way in the other thread. Hopefully traveling will require the team to focus more because whatever PM has been doing hasn't worked at home
Oh it hasn't?? How do you explain being in first in the West with 1 weekend to go then?
Posted on 5/17/17 at 11:09 am to clamdip
Can we host and be hot?
That would be nice.
That would be nice.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 11:09 am to clamdip
quote:
Where did I say being a national seed wasn't important?
It is obvious, however, that being a national seed is far from critical. There is a difference.
No one thinks if we don't get a national seed we cannot win....
The whole entire regular season culminates in how you are seeded though.
This is why we play the regular season, to get seeded. Of course as fans, you want to know you have earned the seed and are playing great ball.
Its not over emphasized. It's the entire reason the season is played.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 11:10 am to jlntiger
quote:
Hopefully traveling will require the team to focus more because whatever PM has been doing hasn't worked at home.
If you don't have faith in what Mainieri does at home, why expect something different on the road?
And besides, no one in any situation would want to be on the road for super regionals.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 11:10 am to clamdip
quote:And this is news? It's not like teams give up when they're not national seeds. And it's not like every team isn't clamoring to get one at the end either.
It is obvious, however, that being a national seed is far from critical.
quote:If the goal is winning it all, then the goal is also getting to Omaha. If the goal is getting to Omaha, the goal is also getting a national seed. If the goal is getting a national seed, then the goal is winning the SEC regular season. However, if any of the previous goals aren't met, the final goal is still attainable although the path is much more difficult (proven by how often we've been to Omaha without hosting a super).
I'd rather this team stay loose and peak than put all their mental faculties into that precious national seed.
See how that works?
This post was edited on 5/17/17 at 11:13 am
Posted on 5/17/17 at 11:10 am to LSUAlum2001
quote:
Can we host and be hot?
Posted on 5/17/17 at 11:10 am to clamdip
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I'm of the opinion, btw, that LSU has burned a lot of mental energy in recent years making a late charge to get a national seed, only to then look less than sharp in the NCAAT. I'd rather this team stay loose and peak than put all their mental faculties into that precious national seed.
Wait...you are dead arse serious huh?
Posted on 5/17/17 at 11:11 am to Hold That Tiger 10
quote:
I'm of the opinion, btw, that LSU has burned a lot of mental energy in recent years making a late charge to get a national seed, only to then look less than sharp in the NCAAT. I'd rather this team stay loose and peak than put all their mental faculties into that precious national seed.
This is ridiculous.
You play the game to win.
Period.
End of discussion.
The rest plays out how it must but come on...
This post was edited on 5/17/17 at 11:12 am
Posted on 5/17/17 at 11:36 am to clamdip
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How many National Seeds made it to Omaha in the last 5 years?
How many non-National Seed LSU teams have made it to Omaha ever?
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The last 5 national champs were not National Seeds.
The last 7 national champs were not LSU.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 11:37 am to Theboot32
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kind of a pointless stat, there are 8 times as many non national seeds, of course more make it to the CWS....
so of the teams that are not national seeds over that same span 8.6% make it to the CWS
I vote for national seed, 40% is greater than 8.6%
A fair assessment would be:
...of the national seeds that made it to a Super Regional, what percentage made it to the CWS.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 11:47 am to nicholastiger
quote:
Stony Brook - LSU only hosted that one because SB won the regional
That's not accurate at all. LSU was a national seed in 2012 and would've hosted regardless if it was Stony Brook or Miami coming out of that regional.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 11:48 am to nicholastiger
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With LSU recent hosting, might not be bad for them to get out of town for a regional.
our road record is terrible this year. we've also never won a super regional on the road. we're 0-3 in that category
This post was edited on 5/17/17 at 11:49 am
Posted on 5/17/17 at 11:48 am to Broski
quote:
Anybody saying a nat seed isn't important needs to be shot.
Like seriously, you deserve to be shot in the foot just so you know not think such stupid things ever again.
I would rather have it than not have it, to be sure....
But the point that several posters are trying to make is this: NOT having a national seed isn't necessarily a death knell for your team, as evidenced by the number of non-national seeds that make it to Omaha.
The fact that LSU hasn't won a road super-regional is moot. This is a different year. Is this LSU team a great road team? NO. Could this particular LSU team go on the road and potentially beat someone in a best 2 of 3 scenario and win a super-regional if it had to? YES.
So in summary, national seeds are good, but it is not necessarily the end of the world if you don't get one. This team is good enough on any given weekend to win 2 out of 3, whether it's at the Box or somewhere else.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 11:51 am to LSUGrad9295
quote:Arkansas doesn't count.
This team is good enough on any given weekend to win 2 out of 3, whether it's at the Box or somewhere else.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 11:53 am to ell_13
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How many times has LSU made it to Omaha without hosting a super regional in the super regional era? I'll hang up and listen...
it isn't even relevant.
many schools have made it to Omaha w/o being a national seed and LSU can do it too. screw the past. I mean, meaning a host doesn't guarantee you in Omaha either.
there is too much emphasis on something we don't control. this team needs to fricking win some games, win their regional and win their whatever super regional they play in.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 11:54 am to LSUGrad9295
quote:Someone gets it.
But the point that several posters are trying to make is this: NOT having a national seed isn't necessarily a death knell for your team, as evidenced by the number of non-national seeds that make it to Omaha.
The fact that LSU hasn't won a road super-regional is moot. This is a different year. Is this LSU team a great road team? NO. Could this particular LSU team go on the road and potentially beat someone in a best 2 of 3 scenario and win a super-regional if it had to? YES.
So in summary, national seeds are good, but it is not necessarily the end of the world if you don't get one. This team is good enough on any given weekend to win 2 out of 3, whether it's at the Box or somewhere else.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 11:55 am to LSU GrandDad
quote:Yeah! Screw our losing road record!!!
screw the past
Posted on 5/17/17 at 11:56 am to clamdip
quote:Gets what? That the season doesn't end when you don't get a national seed? Is that what we are discussing here?
Someone gets it.
I thought it was about how being a national seed is bad because they don't win championships.
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