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re: Yes, there is way too much emphasis on being National Seed (stats inside!)
Posted on 5/17/17 at 11:57 am to jlntiger
Posted on 5/17/17 at 11:57 am to jlntiger
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Hopefully traveling will require the team to focus more because whatever PM has been doing hasn't worked at home
I assume you are talking about past regional and super-regional losses.
Not to make excuses, but Skip Bertman used to always talk about the amount of pressure that the home team has in those situations...and that playing when you are expected to win is not as easy as it looks.
I think that is where the home crowd has to come into play. Of all those regionals that LSU won under Bertman, there were several where LSU was not "clearly" the more superior team, but the aura of the old Box and the fans helped will LSU to victory. I haven't seen that at the new Box. And there are just more teams now that are capable of beating you on any given day.
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Posted on 5/17/17 at 12:03 pm to Theboot32
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kind of a pointless stat, there are 8 times as many non national seeds, of course more make it to the CWS....
so of the teams that are not national seeds over that same span 8.6% make it to the CWS
I vote for national seed, 40% is greater than 8.6%
I'm glad it was the first post that dropped this information on the OP.
Another metric to look at, in addition to national seeds, would be the percentage of teams that hosted throughout that made Omaha. Probably would easily refute that it's better to be on the road the whole time.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 12:05 pm to ell_13
quote:apparently, it's about how many strawmen ell_13 can draw in one thread.
Is that what we are discussing here?
I thought it was about how being a national seed is bad because they don't win championships.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 12:10 pm to clamdip
Your whole OP is a strawman, clamdip.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 12:14 pm to LSUGrad9295
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But the point that several posters are trying to make is this: NOT having a national seed isn't necessarily a death knell for your team, as evidenced by the number of non-national seeds that make it to Omaha.
The fact that LSU hasn't won a road super-regional is moot. This is a different year. Is this LSU team a great road team? NO. Could this particular LSU team go on the road and potentially beat someone in a best 2 of 3 scenario and win a super-regional if it had to? YES.
So in summary, national seeds are good, but it is not necessarily the end of the world if you don't get one. This team is good enough on any given weekend to win 2 out of 3, whether it's at the Box or somewhere else.
Could this team taken another game from either Florida or Kentucky if it was played in a home series instead of an away series? I'd like to think so.
Also,getting a national seed means this team is getting hot at the right time that will be helpful into the post season.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 12:17 pm to LSU ATC
OP's hot take: Playing well is more important than where you play.
Well, no shite.
I'd argue, however, that playing at home is more conducive to playing well. Again, shocking concept.
Well, no shite.
I'd argue, however, that playing at home is more conducive to playing well. Again, shocking concept.
This post was edited on 5/17/17 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 5/17/17 at 12:18 pm to ell_13
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How many times has LSU made it to Omaha without hosting a super regional in the super regional era?
I'll hang up and listen...
How many current players, coaches, and staff were directly involved when LSU lost road super-regionals in 1999, 2001, and 2002?
My turn to hang up and listen.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 12:21 pm to LSUGrad9295
None.
How many are part of our losing road record?
How many are part of our losing road record?
Posted on 5/17/17 at 12:28 pm to clamdip
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I'm of the opinion, btw, that LSU has burned a lot of mental energy in recent years making a late charge to get a national seed, only to then look less than sharp in the NCAAT. I'd rather this team stay loose and peak than put all their mental faculties into that precious national seed.
This is idiotic. So should they just try less to win games later in the year? Getting a national seed is the direct result of winning games. You're basically insinuating that getting hot at the end of the season and getting a national seed isn't always good
Posted on 5/17/17 at 12:36 pm to ell_13
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None.
How many are part of our losing road record?
You are arguing yourself in circles. Just focus for a second. Let go of the fact that LSU has never won a road super-regional. It is irrelevant. Yes, this year's team is not great on the road. Nobody disputes that. Yes, it would be great to play at home both rounds. Nobody disputes that either. Playing at home is the preferable path to take. Nobody disputes that. Just grasp the fact that playing a super-regional on the road is not an impossible task for this team, IF the cards are dealt that way. That is all anyone is saying. Playing at home isn't as sure of a bet as it used to be and playing on the road isn't the kiss of death that you make it out to be for this particular team. It isn't that complicated to understand.
To do list:
1) Hope for a national seed.
2) If national seed is obtained, fill the Box for 2 weekends and intimidate the hell out of the opposition, but know that these days the home teams win less frequently than they used to.
3) If national seed is not obtained, win the regional, hope the seeded team matched with your regional loses, and if they don't, then go on the road knowing that the stats bear out that the road team can indeed win a super-regional, regardless of what their regular season road record may be.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 12:37 pm to LSUGrad9295
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LSUGrad9295
#ShotInTheFoot
Posted on 5/17/17 at 12:39 pm to Broski
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LSUGrad9295
#ShotInTheFoot
Where did I say a national seed wasn't important??
I'd like to keep my feet intact if possible...Posted on 5/17/17 at 12:39 pm to LSUGrad9295
"Ignore this. Ignore that. Ignore this. State the obvious. Act like I'm making a point."
- LSUGrad9295 5/17/17
- LSUGrad9295 5/17/17
Posted on 5/17/17 at 12:43 pm to ell_13
I bet LSUGrad is the first person on here that posts that all our goals are achievable still after losing to Alabama in football.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 12:49 pm to ell_13
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"Ignore this. Ignore that. Ignore this. State the obvious. Act like I'm making a point."
- LSUGrad9295 5/17/17
Awesome. Now I remember why I quit trying to have simple conversation when dickheads are involved. Nobody is telling you you are wrong about anything and nobody is making earth-shattering points. This is all just basic idle talk to kill time on a Wednesday...and you have managed to shite all over it because either you woke up in a pissy mood or you are just a miserable human being altogether.
I quit. You win the thread. Congrats.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 12:50 pm to LSUGrad9295
Guys can't we all just get along?!
Posted on 5/17/17 at 12:52 pm to clamdip
Since you already took the time to do most of the homework, how many teams that hosted a SR made it to Omaha?
Posted on 5/17/17 at 12:54 pm to Broski
Hate all u want to fools but one I repeat one win in Omaha in seven years. That is unacceptable for LSU baseball
Posted on 5/17/17 at 12:56 pm to jlntiger
Yeah buddy tell them haters/fools what's up!
Posted on 5/17/17 at 12:59 pm to jlntiger
Who says it was? Damn fools. I think you have the wrong thread. The fire CPM thread has not been bumped in over a week since the last loss.
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